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Hi everyone

Welcome aboard!

Your story is truly inspiring, I'm thrilled that you decided to share and that I was able to read it.  It sounds like you are well on your way :)

I love that I'm not the only person who read Alan Carr's book.  I also read both the smoking and the drinking one.  After reading the book I walked away from smoking 3 weeks later with no ill effects.  However the Drinking one just did not gel with me.  I have read it 3 times as well as the little AA book.  I can't help but feel like its more of a mindset that makes you do it.  Like when I quit smoking I was really mentally ready to do it (I had tried and failed 6 times before that).  

I wonder if I'm still learning how to quit drinking.  Maybe I need to try a few different methods and get help from a number of different groups and support types.  

I know a lot of people who have found long lasting success through group meetings like AA because its a nonjudgemental environment, and a great place to meet other people who choose not to drink.  This can help you build a sober friend base for things like coffee shop meetings and book clubs, bowling teams or whatever it is that you enjoy doing.  

I wish you every success and look forward to hearing more about your journey :)
11 years ago 0 61 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
is it normal?

I have always been a very self sufficient  self motivated individual.  I have not told anyone of my intention to stop drinking as of yet.  I think my motivation for keeping it to myself is the same motivation that keeps me from starting smoking again.  No only do I have an extreme fear of failure but the thought of not succeeding when others know of my intention to quit would be devastating.  
I do a really good job of appearing to be normal so most people who  know me would not think that I have an issue with alcohol.  The only person(s) who might think that I do are my bf, a couple past bf's, and my best gf from grade school.  My family is blessedly oblivious.  I never drink around them anymore after one mortifying drinking moment (many years ago).  

Today my plan was to go into camh and see what can be done to help me in my current state, and I'm proud to say that I did in fact do that today.  Sadly I found the person there to be particularly unhelpful.  I was handed a stack of 4 papers and told to have my doctor fill out a referral.  I fought with myself from 630 am until after 12 noon to get motivated to go and do this.  I called 3 different alcohol addiction centers and got 2 voice mails and one automated message that would not accept a message.  

I'm presently feeling pretty discouraged, but still going to move forward with my plan.  I live in Toronto, Canada's biggest city and the city with the most and best doctors in the country, if there is anywhere in the country where a person like me can be helped it's right here.  I think for right now because I'm a really high functioning problem drinker (wishful thinking maybe?), I should maybe consider working on one problem at a time.  

First I need to get moved.  My current housing situation sucks, but I find it hard to do everything I need to do all at once including: leaving my bf, moving, finding a place, finding an additional job to support myself alone (or finding a new partner who wants to support me), all while keeping my current job and maintaining my health and quitting drinking.

My drinking problem is only a problem if I START drinking, and even then it only tends to be a serious issue if I'm outside of the house alone.  I'm not sure if that makes sense, but if I go to a bar to drink (by myself) I'll drink till I black out 9 times out of ten(more than 16 beer), At home 9 times out of ten I'll have only a few beer in a sitting(under 10 beer).  If my mother or another family member calls me I tend to drink more heavily, if I was already drinking when they called. Some nights i'll drink no beer at all .. (maybe twice a week, usually on a weekend)

I think deep inside I still want to believe I can do this myself.  

Once I get into my own place I will be buying some grocery store beer (cause I LOOOOVE beer for its flavour) and will try to party like I do now without the alcohol.  But living where I am now I'm having trouble with the bf, he is 100% non-supportive of me making any positive changes in my life or his.  he wont even let me buy 'light' foods (even though we're both put on 40+ lb since getting together)... I need to get out of here before I can make much of a change.

Thanks for your support, I look forward to hearing more about you and your experiences as well :)
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Returning to the website after two years of sobrity.

Wow! 

Congrats to both Big John and Smiles.  

The fact you both quit once for as long as you did means that you both learned how to quit successfully.  That means you can do it again.  I look forward to the day when I can say that I have learned how to quit successfully.  And I look forward to hearing more from you both on your journeys :)
11 years ago 0 61 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
on my way

You are awesome .. a real inspiration.  Thank you for sharing your journey with us.  You can do this, well, you already have, stay strong and I'm sure you'll be surprised with your results!  
11 years ago 0 61 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
is it normal?

I have an action plan in place that includes finding a place and getting out of here.  I intend to leave almost everything I own behind.  I find that when I acquire too many physical possessions I get frustrated and start to feel trapped.  Moving will give me a way to purge all or most of my 'stuff'.  It seems when I finally get a fully furnished really nice place together I start to feel claustrophobic and trapped under all of my stuff.  

My plan is to pack most of my clothes and 36 pairs of shoes (just under half), as well as all of my nail polish (640 bottles) and my purses and my medical records and move!! with some luck I can get all that into one room and just live like that for a while.  This way of life will teach me one of two things, 'I need more space and more stuff', or, 'there is more to life than belongings'.  

For the record this is major lifestyle purge #3

After the move I hope to find an additional job.  The three I have now are not paying well enough to keep me in my current lifestyle.  For the first while I'll be living on under 1,500 a month, and that will be hard mostly because now I spend more than that on food alone, and more than that on alcohol alone, and certainly more than that on rent.  I'm currently working with a budget of about tripple that a month, so it's going to be a shock... but guess who will be quitting drinking??/ (out of sheer necessity I'm sure)  lots of Ramen noodles, water, whey protein and TVP.  

I currently manage four retails stores as far as their merchandising is concerned, so I manage their supply chain.  I tend bar and work security in a concert venue, and I do custom specialized visual art for weddings (starving artist) etc.  I have some free days that I need to fill with work so that I dont destructively fill them with drinking.  My goal is to be working or sleeping at all times for the beginning .. I might pick up a few more shifts at the bar (I know that seems counter intuitive), because I think its the best option for me since I can make good money and dont have to claim most of it.  Plus working with alcohol prevents me from drinking it.  I have very very strict personal standards that include never ever drinking before or during work (regardless of what I'm doing for work), or if I'm driving.  So working in a bar allows me the social interaction I love while remaining completely sober.

That is my plan thus far.
11 years ago 0 61 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Friday & Saturday night

Reddragon,

I wonder if your noontime thoughts of drinking and your before dinner shopping trip to the wine shop, might be the 'habit' part of the addiction.  

When I used to smoke I know I hated the flavour and the stink and the inconvenience of doing it, but I would still get up at 6 am with a massive hang over and get my a*s dressed and walk to the store (cause I was still too drunk to drive) in the middle of winter to buy a fresh pack.  Buying them and preparing to smoke them was all part of the ritual and the addiction.   I found the cigarettes bf would bring home for me were not as satisfying as the ones I got myself.  The trip to the store would build me up for the pleasure I was about to experience (in reality it was disgusting just like you describe the flavour of your wine drink)... 

I'm willing to bet the noon time thought is a set up for the ritual of going to the store to select your wine and carry it home.  surely wine is a far classier beverage than a stinky beer or a vulgar vodka, so while you are selecting it you get to feel sophisticated  (even if you dont see it yourself) and classy.  Then looking at the bottle on the counter for a bit while you think about how you'll only have one glass (I was going to quit after just one cigarette from each pack I bought).

That was really long winded, sorry about that......

My point is this, do you think you could get that same satisfaction from going to the store and selecting a beautiful premium porterhouse with all the fixings and then carrying that home and making you (and your family) a gourmet dinner (probably costs only as much as the wine) and then prepare yourself for the hail of compliments and gratitude and surprise.

I have found success in quitting (smoking and drugs) by replacing those habits and rituals with less offensive rituals and habits.  i brush my teeth upward of 12 times a day and I paint my nails several times daily (on a good day), and I make my own clothing and jewellery.  I'm not sure if this kind of strategy might help you, but I thought I would share in hopes that it is beneficial to someone :)
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Need help coping with after school

Hi Jess,

I'm pretty new to this group too.  I understand how hard it is to admit that you might need help managing your relationship with alcohol.  I'm just starting to get used to the idea that alcohol, is not my friend.  

You have come to the right place if you are looking for support, and kind words from people who really understand what you are feeling.  Welcome to the group, I look forward to hearing from you in the future.
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One more kick at the cat

Thanks for choosing to share your story with us. Welcome back :)
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The Best Advice You?ve Ever Received

I'm not sure how this will be received by the group or the other recovered/recovering  people in the group, but here it is:

To this point, I have not heard a piece of advice that I found to  be 'the fix' to my problem.  I share a lot of advice with people about how I managed to get over addiction, and how I managed to be a better person, but, I cannot kick alcohol.  Not yet anyway.... 

I'm working hard at it, I think I might try to be more direct with my POS bf to see if he might make an effort.  In any event I'm going to leave him, but if talking to him about my problem will make my life easier in the short term, I'm on board with that... 

I have not yet learned how to quit drinking, but I'm really working hard at it.  I'm going to get there one day soon.   Tonight I'm enjoying a glass of (non alcoholic) white wine, and I'm not really missing it.  So I'm hoping I can keep up this trend.

11 years ago 0 61 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
The Best Advice You?ve Ever Received

my whole teen and adult life has been a continual game of substitutions.

I traded heroine for cocaine, cocaine for weed, then weed for alcohol, then started brushing my teeth like a freak 123 times a day instead of smoking cigarettes.. 

and here I sit today trying to find a reasonable substitution for alcohol... 

I think what I need is real therapy to get to the root of the issue.. rather than burying my feelings in substances I need to find reasonable therapy to get to the bottom of the emotional issues and anxiety.  I dont drink because of the booze and the awesome flavour (sarcasm) I drink so that I don;t have to feel, I have been using substances to 'feel' for my entire teen and adult life, I have no idea how to manage my feelings or my anxiety .. so rather than learning I cover them up... 

This is what has to stop.