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Hope, it sounds like your day yesterday was very much like my Father's Day a couple of weeks ago. An afternoon and evening of constant drinking, followed by a long, hungover day, for the zillionteenth time. I was doing that - and regretting it - when I turned 38 and still doing it when I turned 48. As I get close to my 50th, I'm finally so fed up with the same old predictable pattern that I think I might be convinced. How many failures does it take to believe that it will always fail? Every day is still a struggle. Tonight I have a date with my husband, and I'm honestly debating "shall I have one glass of wine?" Can I? I don't know. Is it worth it to even go out on a date WITHOUT drinking? I also don't know. Maybe I can. Maybe it will eventually be just as nice.

I do feel better and more positive today. I made it through July 4th without drinking (which doesn't feel quite like the whoop-it-up success I was anticipating) but I am happy about it. I slept well last night, and I am taking my kids to a nearby touristy cave/caverns to explore for the day. This coming Sunday, if I make it through my third week, I will treat myself to another piece of turquoise (even "manufactured" turquoise) as a special reward for making it through the entire week, including the 4th.

It's weird, but the turquoise thing is actually giving me a surprising amount of strength. I am very scientifically grounded, but I also have some psychology in my background, so I do understand why something like this can work. It gives me something specific I can use to focus on my goal when I feel ambivalent and weak, and I think it's helping. As arbitrary as the labels are, I decided to look up the "meanings" of different gemstones. Yeah, there are as many different meanings as different websites.  But even if the labels are arbitrary, it's cool to have something as a reminder for important things. And I also found out that the stone "amethyst" is derived from the Greek word "amethystos" which literally means "not drunken" or "sober!" So, here's my contribution for the day, that might help you all focus on what is important in your own recovery:
  • readiness for action: amethyst, fire opal, turquoise
  • new beginnings: garnet
  • creativity: amber, garnet, tourmaline
  • unfinished business: aquamarine, carnelian
  • honesty: turquoise, pearl, onyx
  • solving difficulties: carnelian, garnet, smokey quartz, tiger eye
  • goal setting: labradorite, lepidolite
  • sobriety: amethyst
  • intuition: amethyst, moonstone, turquoise
  • luck: agate, amber, garnet, malachite, moonstone, sunstone, turquoise
  • increase motivation: amber
  • order and control: aquamarine
  • positive attitude: malachite, topaz, sunstone
  • protection: agate, smokey quartz, tiger eye, turquoise, tourmaline
  • self-confidence: garnet, topaz, sunstone
  • stamina: aquamarine, garnet, red jasper
  • logical thinking: agate, tourmaline
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Hee hee, if only my husband could read this post! He would most surely approve.... Anyway, dessert sounds like a great alternative to drinking tonight. Grand Marnier souffle! Wine truffles! Tequila pecan pie! Kahlua ice cream!

Or maybe not. 

I too am not sure what makes this time different, but I have a growing feeling it might be you and Camiol and Hope and Black Pearl. I read Marylizy's starting-over post, and I encourage her to tap into this, and anyone else who might benefit. There is no such thing as a failure between us, merely an occasional experiment. Huh? You mean, the experiment turned out the same way this time as it did the last thousand times? Well, go figure....

Hope -- just the fact that you got back onto this forum right away means that you are a little bit stronger this time. And we are sending you strength every time we log on.

Dang - even with all the banter, I have to admit that I'm still considering very strongly trying to have a single glass of wine tonight. After all, I earned it (I know, I know, TMI). DAMMIT, IT'S AN EXPERIMENT! Aargh. I'm sure you ladies will be...almost...the first to know what I decide.
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Monica, such wisdom. And this is why I already treasure all of you. I'm still not sure what I will do tonight, but it's an amazing feeling of freedom to have the knowledge that not a single one of you will judge me, no matter what I decide to do this evening. Wow.....
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I had one glass of red wine at my favorite restaurant. I enjoyed every drop, and gave the last few sips to my husband because I'd honestly had enough. I feel really good about this evening.
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So good to hear from you, Hope and Camiol, and thank you, Sonia. I still feel good about my decision to have one glass of wine last night. My current experiment, courtesy of my husband, could be a good thing in many ways. If it backfires, I promise all of you that I will acknowledge that it isn't working, and move on. As always, my refrain is "I don't know if I can do this." But I do know that I'm finding it really important to check into this site several times a day, which is a very good thing. Thanks, Ladies. You are great.

Camiol, you ask how I felt when I ordered the wine. I was paying special attention to my feelings the whole time, so I can answer that. In fact, get ready for an amusing level of detail that anyone but us would find ludicrous. So, here goes: I had made a promise to myself before dinner that it would be one glass only. I was apprehensive when I ordered it, and even more apprehensive when my husband said, "Would you like to just share a bottle?" I immediately told him that if I can't stick to my promises with myself, then I can't drink at all. He agreed, and then he was totally supportive.

I focused on feeling good about myself, being honest, and not letting the alcohol control me. It didn't surprise me (although I was annoyed) when that inner voice immediately started chiming in "You're drinking! You blew it! Might as well have a whole bottle!" Unbelievably, I even had a quick craving for a cigarette (I SO get you, Camiol). I know it's the negative core belief system that the advisors on this site have been telling us about. Knowing where those voices were coming from, I was actually able to put those destructive thoughts aside pretty easily last night, so THANK YOU Ashley, Vicenza, and Sonia.

Also,  I kept thinking about Monica's wonderful advice: "Relapse doesn't begin when we take that first sip, but when the obsession begins." That has been so true with all of my obsessions. With the eating, I have managed to get to a point where I can pretty much eat what I like (because, you know, you gotta eat) without eating everything in front of me. It took a long time to get here, but I did it because I know I have to. I am trying to focus on doing the same with red wine.

With all that said, I thoroughly enjoyed my single glass of wine, from first sip to last, and I don't feel bad about myself this morning. I don't think I would be at this point without you all, and I am taking one cautious day at a time as I navigate this territory.
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Hope, thanks for your good wishes, and I hope you are feeling better. Camiol, I am so sorry to hear about the burglary! I hope that nothing valuable besides money was stolen - sometimes it's the sentimental things that are the real killer.

I am wearing my turquoise today, in large part to remind myself that a single glass of wine last night does not mean that I can spend the weekend drinking. I haven't had any cravings today, and I'm not going to drink again until I earn it   and plan ahead for it, and I am looking forward to that! Camiol, you might consider getting an amethyst pendant to wear as a reminder to always plan your drinking and not let it get out of control. Silly, but it could be powerful if you let it be.

I am taking the kids swimming in a bit, but I'll check in later. I hope you are all having a good weekend.
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Black Pearl, Hang in there, I really hope things went better after you went back to bed. I am also going to bed now - just exhausted. I am thinking of you and hope tomorrow is better.
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Camiol, yes a burglary IS a violation. My neighborhood sounds similar to yours, and our next door neighbor was recently burglarized -- it does shake your faith, and I hope it doesn't happen to me! I have made it three weeks now with only a single glass of wine. Yesterday was much easier than I feared it might be, but we'll see how today goes. This is my last day of the long vacation, and I am going to an art gallery brunch with my two favorite drinking buddies. Camiol, I think you said your two best drinking buddies are also your cousins? That is true with my best friend, who is also my cousin. She has been planning to move here for several years, and finally did this month. She lives a block away now, which is wonderful, but is also a little stressful because she is an all-or-nothing kind of person. I told her that I was quitting drinking entirely, which surprised her, and we talked about it for quite awhile. And now I'm going to tell her that I want to drink occasionally like I did last Friday, and I'm almost afraid to! I do not plan to drink today, but it would be so nice to have a normal relationship with alcohol.... How did Saturday turn out for everyone else?
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I wanted a glass of wine so badly this afternoon  -- we had a fabulous thunderstorm, which is so lovely to watch with a nice glass... But we had nothing in the house, and the craving passed with a lot of cheese and crackers.  I really need to make sure I don't gain a ton of weight during this process! Hey - I just bought a small personal breathalyzer, which I think will be a great tool to keep me and my drinking buddies grounded in reality. What a great way to keep track of how many drinks you can truly handle! I got it on amazon.com. Jessica30, it sounds like you are really determined! Good for you.

I looked up some things to say to people who want you to drink with them. Here are some great ideas:
http://www.wikihow.com/Turn-Down-a-Drink
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Ladies, I just found a remarkable explanation that I think might really help with the "moderate drinking" idea. Get this:

Most drinkers experience some mild euphoria after one or two standard drinks. This is often referred to as a "buzz." The buzz usually lasts for about 30-60 minutes before your body adjusts to the alcohol you've just drank. (The technical term for this is acute tolerance.) Then the buzz starts to wear off. There is nothing you can do to recapture that feeling until you've been sober again for about a day.

Unfortunately many heavy drinkers try to recapture the buzz by drinking more and increasing their BACs. While this will get them drunk, they're not recapturing that initial buzz.

So if you enjoy that buzz, recognize it for what it is, a short-term experience that won't last all night regardless of how much you drink.