Charle_uk:
So all that has happened with you is a panic attack, which was diagnosed as such by Physician in the ER. Were you referred to another type of doctor for further evaluation?
I am not at all familiar with the inner workings of your healthcare system there..or anywhere exept for in the US. I can get around well in this country..I get all kinds of things paid for by my governement insurances.
Do you think you should go further with ysome real treatment? Afterall, we are not doctors..and really cannot advise yu. We can only tell you what we did, and suggest from our own ideas of what works and what doesn't work...for each of us.
Post more if you want,Charlie..it is so interesting to hear of others with this "thing". Don't you think it is a "thing"?
I saw one last nite with Rourke..White Sands I think...good flick. Rourke is the kind of actor..who I always associated ith Panic Disorders..as in his roles..he always explains his thinking and actionzs..or lets us in on them in some way. I have to do a lot of explaining to myself ahead of what I do..to lessen the blow of some of the things I have to do to live..like before I drive..I run it down in my head..what I may encounter..what I will encounter..and my probable reactions to all. Then I tell my scared self that my strong self is there for the other one..Am I BiPolar? This is something I made up..the self talk. It's like we all have the other side of what we are inside..vis a vis sexuality. In each female there is a male and vice versa. Comprendez ? I am female with a strong male presence..I can do home repairs, use power tools, tune up a car..but when I go out..I am a gorgeous, feminine, built woman..and always have been..I must have been a man in another lifetime. eh? Whee did these skills come from?
Red
I feel better knowing that you are going to the "shrink" as I call all drs that treat what is in our heads.
The parental thing is tough..
I had that problem for years, and I will tell you this...to appease them does no good. You must figure out how to cut their power. If they are like mine..loads of money and thought it was God...I had to let them know they could put the money where the sun doesn't shine...it made them no better or worse than anyone else. Maybe they think they made their decisions and they were wrong, and just want to save you from the same thing. Figure out why they think they are the Energizer Bunny..and cut the power supply..change out the batteries..and that will be that. Anyway, since they don't care enough to find out what is troubling you..then why bother letting them know....it is not a win-win situation...but get yourself feeling stronger first..you are who is important here..and please do not forget this.
We are here..and we care...Just posrt and speak your mind..vent, holler, cry for help..we are here..
Red
I am so glad you are off on the right foot.
Always follow drs advice, they know how to do things, when we are caught up in a "jam".
This is dr week for me too.
Post soon and let us know what's up. :)
This message was edited by am on 2-11-02 @ 9:32 PM
I thought you might enjoy this one today:
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"A habit cannot be tossed out the window; it must be coaxed down the stairs a step at a time."
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_ _ Mark Twain
Anne-Marie,
I have been thinking about this question since you posted it, and cannot get it out of my mind.
A hug always helps everything. I am not sure, that I would want to be in a strangers arms. Maybe I am insecure, but I fear the unknown, when it comes to people I don't know. Tnere is too much scamming and crime that involves vulnerable people now.
Maybe if I was involved with someone , I would want him to hug me..as like I said, a hug helps everything !
I never want to "run" during an attack..I am much too involved in being trapped to see any way out. I see myself under a vehicle, in a bloody mess. Much too injured to move.
Most of my panic now involves the driving situation, and I surely would not want to run on an Interstate highway or even the roads here. If anything I would want to dissapear into a soft, warm, safe and secure place.
The next time I have an attack, I will try to visualize this "hug", and I will have to visualize a man as well,
It will be difficult to do this and still drive..I can pull over, like I do most of the time. I need something to visualize that won't take my attention at the wheel.
Driving phobias can be tricky.
Luckily I have a good imagination, as do mst artists.
Thank you for a safe place to think of.
Red.
My email name is red_budz
if I type it as it is you don't see the underscore. (email address removed at Red's request)
maria..you need to try to email me. It is important,
Red
This message was edited by am on 2-14-02 @ 11:45 AM
maria,
I have to agree with MrBubbie, that experience has brought me so far from where I used to be. I have worked these attacks through so that I am now able to go out and enjoy a social life. I guess I wanted to be able to enjoy so very much, that I took the extra steps to be sure I was "covered". I carried a pill box, and still do, and I worked through all the scenario, went to my doctor, and to a group for therapy. It has taken me a while, but I sure like being comfortable with people socially, instead of being a victim.I wanted it so badly, I made it happen. The same with driving..I conquered that too.
I was not satisfied to sit back and feel sorry for myself, while life passed me by. I wanted to be involved in my life..not be an outsider.
This is what I did for me.
Red
Dear Jackson,
I also quit smoking and found that I was getting some panic attacks in the beginning of my quit.
It was like I would go for a cigarette, and none was there, and then I would get the queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. This was bad and I went to my doctor and she put me back on Xanax (which I had taken for years ).The medicine helped a great deal. It is very mild and took the edge off until I made my adjustment. I am no longer on the medicine. I do keep some pills with me in case I need one when I am out. I would think that this is temporary..as it was with me. Have you ever had any anxiety before?
I take anti-depressants for other reasons, and this Xanax worked wonders for me during my quit.
I do not think this is major. but needs attention. It should not be ignored. It is the body's way of saying something to you.
There are many things that can trigger these attacks. The fact that coffee is a trigger shows me that your body misses the cigarette. Does that make any sense? Also, your body is wondering what happened to its "fix". There are thousands of additives in cigarettes. These chemicals could trigger feelings in yiur bogy too.
Please relax, as getting upset does not help. Please do some deep breathing exercises, like t\you learned in your stop smoking course. Lower your shoulders..when we get "up tight" we raise our shoulders and it is not good for our central nervous system. Lower and let that breath out and frelax.
That's better.
The places that trigger those feelings may be places you used to smoke in..maybe?
The only good advice I have for right now is to please relax. This will help you.to tell you that you are not alone. I am here for you.
Red
Mr Bubbie and Mria,
When you are in the middle of these attacks - "peaking" as maria calls it, what do your eyes see and what does your mind see?? You know we have this thing called "The Minds' Eye". Our eyes take in scenes..but our minds'eye see thru the mind. It is what is seen after it filters thru the mind and that is what is called an impression. It is the scene that has been thought about and judged by the mind. Suppose we could change what the minds'eye sees?
There is another concept I use when in a situation where panic is involved. I step back in my mind, and see myself and the whole scene from a "third person".
Maria, you are a writer, and I respect your opinions and would like to know what you think of my concept.
Is your writing what you see/feel while going thru a panic attack? Can you write what you see? Or is your writing/poetry what your mind imagines, like dreams? Are your writings the escape, so to speak?
In earnest,Red
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