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8 years ago 0 52 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
These are some great ideas flipflopmom!  I really love the idea about getting a game going or doing something to change the old patterns.  As for my Mom, well I am learning not to let it get under my skin.  She is a horse of a different colour and I'm slowly learning how to set boundaries without being confrontational or defensive.  I have a big smile on my face after reading your post and my husband came in and said, what are you grinning about?  You are so right... Other people maybe don't care about sobriety but we do and we are so lucky to have eachother's support :-)
 
 

8 years ago 0 113 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi WT,

I understand very well what you're saying... and what you're going through.  We had an old drinking buddy over this weekend, and he sat on my couch drinking beer with my husband while I waited on him.  Really nice!  (NOT)  And he treated my daughter terribly by talking rudely to her, and treating her like a waitress.  In the end, I retreated to the bedroom to play cards with my daughter.  She said to me, "Mom, I'm so glad you don't drink anymore.  Scott was so mean to me, and I hate it when Daddy drinks."  As soon as dinner was done, and I had done all the dishes, Scott left.  His belly was full, his buzz was on, and he was done with us.  What a jerk.

I would suggest to you that there is a different way to do your family gatherings.  You need boundaries, my friend.  It's so easy to repress your own wants and needs when you drink.  Scott was encouraging his dog to come up on my couch.  I had to put up my finger and say "no, no!" to him like a little child.  We don't allow dogs on our furniture.  He was pissed at me, but oh well!  Don't come eat my food and treat my child poorly if you want to sit on a couch with your dog!  People are used to us being more submissive and meek when we drink, and we are different now.  You are different now.

If I were you, I'd make a list of things you would like to go differently the next time you have a family function.  You made the potluck change, now it's time to make some more changes.  If you don't want to drive your sister home, get her a cab or UBER.  Tell her on the phone that you can't drive her home anymore, but you're willing to get her a cab.  This is only a suggestion.  If you are sick of your mother grilling someone, perhaps interrupt and talk about something else.  "HEY!  I have a great story to share!  Check out what happened to ME THIS WEEK!"  Something like that, maybe?  If it's someone who needs attention, like your mom, ask her something personal so that she can tell a story about herself.  She may like to talk about herself, so try, "Hey, Mom, can you tell me how you made that recipe?"  Or, "Mom, where was the place you said there were great bagels?"  I don't know.... Just break up that conversation somehow.  Take out some cards like I did and get everyone focused on something other than sitting around drinking and getting on each other's nerves.

I went to a support group meeting for homeschoolers last week.  They set up a game like Family Feud.  It was so fun!  I thought that if people came over it would be so much more fun to play a game like Pictionary rather than sitting around eating crap and getting wasted.  What do you think?

I hope this gives you some good ideas.  I will promise you something else.  You'll be so surprised at how little people care about our sobriety.  We care much more than others.  It's odd, but it's just not that important to others like it is to us.  Sometimes it makes me sad that my husband doesn't care as much as I do, but that's just the way it is.  You care, Foxman cares, Toxic Soul and Julie and Gus care... because they know what it's like being us.
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Hi flipflop Mom,

I don't know how or why but I didn't see this reply until just now and the funny thing is that I've been grappling with the same dilemma over he last few days.  Although it will be easy to explain my not drinking out our upcoming family gathering because I don't normally drink at these events (you will see why below), I was thinking about future events and how I will explain it without it becoming a "big deal".   My reasons for not drinking at our family gathering are different this time around though.  I'm not drinking at the event because I don't drink anymore, gosh it feels good to say that :-) instead of not drinking because I feel responsible for making sure my sister is safely delivered home at the end of it all.

Here's how a family gathering for us typically goes: 

Since my daughter and I are the only ones who plan and carry out family gatherings, we finally told everyone that we would be doing these things pot luck in order to help defray the costs and the workload for the host.   Inevitably my Mother will appear at the door late, with a head of raw broccoli in her hand (gee thanks lol)  It used to make me angry (foxman you helped me with this part) but now I am just prepared to accept that that's the way it is and will always be. 
 
Everyone will gather around the fireplace in the backyard except for me and my daughter.  We will be in the kitchen getting the food ready and entertaining my grandson.  Once the food is ready we will eat and then without a doubt after having a glass of wine (it only takes one for her) my Mom will start grilling my adult niece and nephew about what they are doing with their lives or say something to embarrass or upset my sister.  The guys will slip away to the porch for their traditional glass of scotch and a cigar and my my sister will drain every bottle of wine or can of beer within her reach because she can't deal with my mother. 
 
When the fun is all over, my daughter and I will do the dishes and I will pour my sister into the car and take her home so that I know she is safe and sound.  I have resented this for years.  The truth is that I resented her because I felt responsible for her safety and so couldn't "get my party on" and numb myself so that I didn't have to deal with the stress of whatever my Mother was going to do or say. 
 
By the time I arrive home, everyone else is gone and I look at my husband and ask him why I do this to myself.  This is the point at which is used to unwind with a couple (or more) of glasses of wine but this time I think I will plan a nice long bubble bath instead.  That will give me a nice reward to look forward to.
 
Some would ask "why bother putting yourself through it all".  The truth is that my daughter and I value family connections and no matter how crazy, annoying, unreliable or unhelpful they may be at times, they are the only family we have and we love them.  For this reason, I want to try to try being in these relationships as my authentic self just like you mentioned flipflopmom.  It will be interesting to see how I feel about this gathering now that I am able to go into it without already feeling angry and resentful.
 
I really appreciate everyone's earlier input as this has helped me to prepare for something I knew was coming and really didn't know how I would get through it all.

8 years ago 0 113 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
It's funny to me now that I look back...  I was so afraid in the beginning to tell people that I was planning on not drinking anymore. I see this being a common thing with people just starting out.  I was TERRIFIED to tell my friends, husband, family of my sobriety.  WHY?

I think that I was so used to suppressing my feelings and living with secrets.  I wore a mask for the outside world, and I wanted to be a perfectionist.  The truth is, however, no one is perfect. By sharing our authentic selves with people, (select people close to us) we have an opportunity to get closer, and really DO LIFE with some lovely folks. 

My relationships now are so much more real.  The people that know me well know that I have struggles, sadness, mental quirks, and old pain from certain traumas.  What do you know?  I'm just like everyone else.
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Thanks Flipflopmom (geeze I love your name).  These are great pieces of advice that I will keep in bag of tricks for the first party.  Thank goodness you are all here!
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I so agree with Colin and Julie. 

Julie had some great suggestions, and Colin is so right.  Go to a party and stay sober and it'll be a REAL eye opener!  I did that, and wow.... Just wow...  I left the party thinking, "Oh my God.. I used to look like that in front of my daughter..." I thought I was fine, of course, but I was tipsy, silly, and unpredictable.  NOT GOOD for a small child to see.

I would suggest bringing your own drinks, I do that a lot, and after a time you'll feel confident to just come out and say, "I don't drink anymore."  I have used the reason that I was getting fat (I'm quite thin) and that alcohol gave me insomnia and stomach issues (Sort of true, but not really.)

The exit plan is also pivotal.  When things get hairy, you gotta bolt.  Drive yourself.  I've even left my husband at a friend's house when I was done.  He found a ride home and was fine.

I declined going to my very close friend's 50th birthday party that was like a wedding.  I just told her that I couldn't be around people drinking, that I wasn't ready.  Since she is a great friend, she totally understood.  Real friends are like that.  :) 
8 years ago 0 52 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Lol Colin you made me laugh thank you.  I agree... there have been times when I am driving and others around me are drinking and I have had the chance to witness some rather bizarre behaviour.  It is ridiculous how too much alcohol can make us behave isn't it? I'm sure there are many times where I have been the stupid, loud and boring one in the room and my goal is never to go there again. 
 
I will definitely be sure to take your advice and have an exit plan for the bigger events like parties etc. and I think I will have something special planned for myself so that as you said, I don't wind up feeling like I am missing something.
 
Thanks Colin for the great advice and a good laugh :-)

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Having a bailout plan is a tactic I employ

I recommend making sure you are never trapped in the social situation due to relying on someone for transportation etc. It helps going in, if you know you can leave if the discomfort becomes too much. 

That said, you may find being around people drinking is actually a motivator to stay sober. 

Yesterday I was at an afternoon/evening event that was very focused around alcohol. Watching  friends become increasingly impaired was an eye opener,  as I processed that is how I looked and behaved until very recently.  Frankly, drunk people are stupid, loud, and not very interesting. Lol

I left early in the evening as the hardcore drinking began to dominate. I had absolutely no regrets  or fear thst  I might be missing something. 

It wasn't easy. But I did it. You can too. 



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Thanks Julie for your words of encouragement!  The name comes from the shock that I experienced when I used the questionnaire to evaluate my drinking habits.  I was faced with the truth in a big way and could easily see that I was wasting thousands of hours of my life and thousands of dollars for something that only made me feel bad in the long run.  My dreams and aspirations were all on hold and had been for a long time.  Now I can see that I was the only thing holding me back.
 
Yes, that first drink was enjoyable but it was all downhill after that, especially at a special occasion or party.  I can remember feelings of embarrassment and shame and then there was the self-loathing, the morning lectures to myself in the mirror and the crumby way I felt all day after having a few too many. 
 
I think back to my last vacation and to tell you the truth I couldn't wait for it to be over because physically, I felt awful by the end of it.  As each day passes I feel more committed to my sobriety and it gets a little bit easier.  I woke up this morning completely elated! It was Saturday and I was able to get up and get going right away.  I was off in the car on my own and not dependent on my husband to take me shopping because I was hungover or feeling unwell.  When I got home he told me how proud he was of me which really made me feel good.  
 
 for this weekend I've made plans with my Mom and daughter to get a pedicure and go out for lunch.  Neither of them drink so it will be a perfect first outing.  I've signed up for a math class (now that I seem to have all kinds of spare time :-)) and if all goes well will finally be able to finish my diploma and perhaps in time even declare a major :-) 
 
It's my turn to quote you foxman :-) 
 
We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes!
 
This seems to be what has happened to me.  I got up one day not too long ago and I thought to myself "what am I doing?"  I was just sick of it and the thought of having another drink just didn't appeal to me any more.  Ironically I heard the words of Peter Green this morning while playing his CD "I'm so tired of existing, I want to start living" and thought to myself, 'I can relate'
 
Truthfully though the first few days were really tough because having a few glasses of wine in the evening were so much a part of my daily routine that I just didn't know what to do with myself and also my body was used to that 6 o'clock sugar rush. On day one I didn't even dare drive by the corner store or go to the grocery store.  By day three I was in the grocery store buying myself sunflowers and lemongrass tea. 
 
I just took it day by day though and began to feel better and better as each day passed. 
 
It's only been a week but I can already see how enjoyable an event could be without alcohol.  I'm not quite ready to test it out yet but next week we do have a family gathering and I will be sure to prepare some special beverages for myself so that I can still have a treat without drinking. 
 
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