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14 years ago 0 356 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Ashley,
 
I  guess I  could have posted in success stories, I feel like I"m still challenging the self talk and look forward to feeling I've successfuly tackled more before I post in the success story section. Although each day is a success in itself.
 
The parts I found most helpful for me personally was weeks 1-3. tracking the negative thoughts (realizing I had so many I couldn't write them all down and still get anythign done in a day was surprising), challenging the negative thoughts and understanding the concept of exposure as it related to me. My panic was related to fear of abandonment rather than specific places like tall buildings. So it took a while to wrap my head  around the concept of exposure. Then there was the day I realised that I am exposed to my trigger every day because it is my emotions. So unless I actively distracted myself from having emotions I was  doing exposure work every day. It was exhausting at times, and I posted just a few days ago how tired I was.
 
The sections on grief and loss, and  relationships and resolving conflict are really well  written and are helpful, i go back and read them often. On  day 1 I had no way of knowing this program was going  link  my lack of assertiveness, avoidance of conflict and my anxiety together.
 
The forum has been really important for me because I didn't have a support person. that really bothered me and the idea of dealing with a panic alone still doesn't thrill me but I know I will get through it. It just won't feel good,but I feel like I've broken the vicious cycle of my life where I attracted "friends" who were never there for me when I needed a friend and then got upset and anxious that I didn't have any supportive people in my life, which made me more anxious and more desperate to go out and get more friends, which led to finding more people who were not avaible as supportive people for whatever reason, and on and on the cycle has gone. Now I know that as an assertive person who is more comfortable with my feelings, I'll attract and be attracted to other people who are also comfortable with themselves and seeking reciprical friendships and the irony is that the more I feel this way, the less I probably will need a person to help me through the panic times. Having support will alwasy be nice, but I won't feel desperate about needing it anymore. I hope.
 
 I still feel susceptible to a panic attack occuring if/ when the "perfect storm" occurs which is: me tired, being demanded by others to take care of them, and not enough time to rest or process my own feelings. Being in spaces where I am not allowed to express myself (because of the issues of others) ignites frustration. That frustration grows, and eventually I burst at the seams in anger. Right now I am avoiding those kinds of spaces to some degree. I am making friends with myself (at your wise suggestion). This new friend isn't quite sure what to do in spaces where she can't be her full self. she is never completely denied her self expression, but parts of her are accepted here, parts there, with different people she is allowed to be a bit of this, a bit of that (i.e. some people respond well when I am being talkative, others make me feel uncomfortable for being myself). She is probably not quite sure how to be herself but not throw her self in anyone's face. She is probably not sure (having little practice) how to be ok with people not knowing how to take her sometimes, just based on personality differences. She still gets offended when someone is cranky around her, becausee she judges them as either not taking good enough care of themselves before coming out to socialize with her, and worried they will make her responsible for trying to feel better. So there's lots of work ahead. 

This program provides the tools needed to address anxiety. I deeply hope that doctors and  counsellors increase their own education around this so that they can effectively advise patients how to cure anxiety instead of just giving people pills indefinitely. this is much better than just being told to live with it and take pills for ever - which I have worried about as being my  only optin and  I know others worry about that too. its like when there was finally a cure for polio or any other illness. there is a cure for anxiety. hooray.
 
14 years ago 0 286 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Loves trees,
Congratulations on all of your progress. You are truly an inspiration!
Teebs

14 years ago 0 11226 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thanks for sharing our success with us Loves trees!
 
It has been amazing to see how much you have grown in the past few weeks.  What parts of the program did you find especially helpful?
 


Ashley, Health Educator
14 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
loves trees

Thank you. Your progress is my progress. I like your take on emotions, they are not bad just different, just like the seasons, like a rainy day, they let you enjoy the sun without it becoming ho hum. And for any one who is curious, yes I still have days ruled by emotions, but they don't rule me. Just a slight difference there but it is there. Perception, so much of our emotions is about how we look at things. Nothing wrong with sad is there, after all we are human.

We are a group, we help each other. All of you are helping me to fine tune who I am. I want to thank all of you for being here.

Here for you
Davit.
14 years ago 0 356 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hello everyone,
 
First I wanted to thank Davit specifically for all your posts during the last month to me and to others. This month I have had more gains than years prior with other counselling and your posts have been a part of that for sure. No question.
 
I think it is a month since I joined. My last big attack was 2 weeks ago. 
Today I still have a lot of 'what if' and worry thoughts but I challenge every single one of them, to greater or lesser degrees throughout the day (and night). Sometimes I explore them in depth and sometimes I distract myself for a while.
I have much greater emotional awareness than I did a month ago. When I feel something, I don't automatically start to panic anymore.
 
When I do "go inside" myself and take apart or analyze a negative thought or core belief, I do so in a more managed fashion. Once I've felt I exhausted the process for the time being I move on and take a bath or something relaxing. And (this is key) I don't feel bad about that anymore. whereas I used to feel bad about relaxing and enjoying myself. I still have the thoughts "do you deserve this bath / chocolate bar" but I answer yes now instead of letting the thought eat away at me. 
 
Thanks to Davit's posts and explanations about feelings and other things, I feel comfortable feeling sad for the first time in my life. I am able to feel something without anxiety and panic joining in as unwelcome sidekicks.
 
When i am sad or frustrated I repeat in my head "I am sad. This will pass. It always does." and it is true. And I let myself be sad. Some days I am sad once, or 3 times or 6 times, and that is OK. No one is harmed by me being sad and needing to let out some tears for 10 or 15 minutes. I believe this now.
 
When I read the posts here now where people say this program works, i believe it, whereas when I joined, I wanted to believe it, but didn't believe it as much as I do now. 

This work on myself has changed what I expect from people around me in terms of respecting my needs, and respecting me in general. When I am misunderstood, I still get angry which is ok, except I lash out at people verbally when I am angry and I don't want to do that. There is work to do there. I don't walk away when I am angry and I know that is the only sane option. Arguments don't go anywhere good when I am angry. I know that, I just need to practice walking away and being ok with being angry without letting the negative thoughts ramp up while I am feeling angry.
 
I have stopped pursuing a couple specific friendships where I was previously doing all the work (the one to phone them, ask them to go to dinner, etc.. and they never reciprocated). I have realized I want more equitable friendships. I hope that maybe these friends, whom I've had for a while and had good times with, will pick up the ball and ask how I am doing but I know that may not happen and that this is not the end of the world.
 
Now that i've stopped trying to make people in my life my caretakers, I am more lonely, but less panicked about this. Yes today I will have to keep busy or else I will probably easily spiral into thinking the worst about my relationships ending and no one being there for me as a friend or support person, but I am on the right path. Over time, the way I want to think will become more and more habitual. The thoughts I don't want to have will get buried over more. It does take time, and in the meantime I have to do things I am not comfortable with - patience, and letting go of trying to control other people in my life. This is the hardest thing I face today but it is absolutely necessary and I know that. 
 
I wanted to post this to let people know how the process works for me. Everyone's pace and process is a bit different here from what I've read, but I know it is helpful to new people espeically to see people's progress.
I am sure i have some low times ahead. Emotions are my triggers and you can't live without emoting. Well you can try, I did, but it isn't good. But I am going to stick by myself more now.

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