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14 years ago 0 517 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Phoenix,
Your story brought me back some memories of jealous mothers. I remember when I had a big 70's themed birthday party, my ex mother in law told my ex that I'm not getting a birthday present because I didn't invite her to my party! I didn't even invite my own mother. Anyways, I'm glad to read that your husband's going to take care of it and good for you for talking it out with your husband. It's also great that you're going out to AZ to be with him and not with them. Best wishes. 

14 years ago 0 1665 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Phoenix:  Sounds very stressful and hurtful, what you just went through.  Sorry you have to go through it.  I wonder, has your husband ever been away for long periods from home before?  Maybe his mother feels very lonesome and worried. (I know you were too).  How often did he used to call her or visit before he left for basic training? 
 NOT that that is an excuse for her behaviour.  I agree it would be wise for your husband to handle this situation and talk to her as he said he would.  Don't get caught in the middle, she is his mother.  Sounds positive though, that he is on your side and wants to talk to her about these issues.  I think if you get involved (even though you are very hurt by her remarks and attitude towards you) she might resent you even more.  Let's hope he sets boundaries with her concerning his marriage with you, how she needs to be respectful and butt out of your and his affairs. 
Your move to Arizona sounds wonderful and yes, you'll have privacy, yippee.  I visited AZ and just fell in love with it.
 
p.s. vent as much as you want.  We support you - we take turns venting - lol
14 years ago 0 86 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Vent away! 
That is indeed a really ugly turn of events.  I am so glad that things are positive with your husband in this situation.  That is indeed a good thing to focus on.  
 
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Phoenix

Good vent.  You two will be better off away from this person who controls every one, even her husband it seems. May your life together be pain and panic free. People sometimes get things wrong but it seems she does it on purpose. Ignore It. It isn't worth the worry. Good relations should have no secrets.

Davit.
14 years ago 0 9 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Here's what happened. My husband just graduated basic training last weekend and he sent his letters home with me so I can pack them. Yesterday, I had the urge to re-read the letters that I wrote to him, just so I could go back and see the changes in my anxiety from then, when I couldn't talk to him, to now. It turns out that his mother and I both used long envelopes. Not paying attention, I grabbed the first envelope off the top. When I opened it I realized that it wasn't my letter, but my stepdad distracted me and I dropped it. When I picked up the second page I saw some not-so-nice things written about me. I know it was wrong, but when I see something bad about me I'm going to read it.
 
She thinks that I "broke" into my husband's facebook to spy on him...at least that's what she wrote to him. What actually happened was I had called his brother and sister for his password to his World of Warcraft account because I needed to close the account. She also told him that I called the both of them fishing for his facebook password. He gives me all of his passwords anyway, but I forget them BECAUSE I normally see no need to remember them. He HATES clearing off his facebook of all the notices and stuff and I knew that he would have a lot of them on there since he was in BCT and unable to check it. So I got on his facebook to clear old messages and things that I knew he would hate to do. In my eyes, I was being a good wife and I knew that my husband wouldn't care in the least.
 
She wrote to him telling him that she was surprised that he wasn't upset with me and that she's lost a lot of respect for me. She said that just because he's married doesn't mean that he loses the right to all his privacy. She also started off the letter by saying that I had stopped reporting to them how he was doing and that it seemed that if they were going to find out anything about him he would need to write her. This was also, excuse my language, but CRAP too!! I called or visited any time that I would hear something new or interesting from him. If they didn't hear from me it was because I didn't even know anything new. What did she want a play by play on how much he missed me, because that was what most of his letters were about. Besides the fact that nobody ever bothered CALLING ME to find out how he was doing!! I was going through enough without having to worry about keeping in touch with them. Why was it only up to me?
 
When I called my husband to tell him that I saw the letter he was so sweet and supportive. I'm kind of glad that it happened because it showed me that no matter what he had my back. He said that he had debated for a long time whether or not to tell me about the letter because he didn't want me to be hurt. He said that that was why he had not written her back after that letter because he didn't appreciate what she said about me. He said that he plans to have a talk with her. He thinks that once he explains what really happened that everything will be cleared up.
 
In my opinion, I don't think this has anything to do with what she wrote. I think that she is angry because she's realizing that he's not her baby anymore. Before ya'll ask, yes he is the baby of the family. I think that it made it even worse that when she asked him if she should go to the graduation or not he said that he would prefer that time with me. SHE is the one who gave HIM the option, saying that she would understand, but I think she was expecting a different answer. I had to go over there today to get his mail and his Dad gave me a bunch of crap about him "not calling his mother more". Later on he told me that he understood, but that it was my husband's mother who wants to hear from him. I will be so glad when I move to AZ with him, in less than a week, and I don't have to be caught in the middle of all this.
 
Sorry, this is so long. I guess I had to vent. 
14 years ago 0 86 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Wow, Phoenix, that must have been difficult to deal with.  I'll bet that one of the contributing factors to many of us who experience panic / anxiety is because we are worried about what others think of us (maybe why crowds, etc. are triggers).  But, to have a specific situation play out like yours did is indeed a stress-inducing thing. 
I would say that the tingly, light arms are definitely a reaction I get.  Also things like "numb teeth".  I find myself wanting to wiggle them and get some sensation into them because it makes me feel light-headed and therefore increases the panic if I pay attention to it.
I find that challenging the sensations helps to not fret over them.  For example, when your arms tingle, stop to think why that may be.  You soon realize that it's a normal reaction to being stressed / panicky and you can tell yourself that the feeling will go away in just a few moments.  Sometimes when we start to accept what is going on with our bodies during an attack, we can ride it out or rationalize it, rather than fearing it and letting it make the attack stronger.  It takes a lot of self-convincing that we're okay, and I've found that it became easier and easier to convince myself over time (i.e. I am NOT going to faint in the line-up). 
Hang in there and remember: some people (like your Mother-in-Law) will find fault in others, no matter what.  THEY are the ones with the problem, as it must make them pretty unhappy to dwell on the negative. Take solstice in the fact that you know how great of a person you are and if she can't see that, it's definitely her loss.

14 years ago 0 1665 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
what Davit says about taking her son away from her attentions may have a ring of truth to it.  My former mother-in-law used to make odd comments at the dinner table such as "you've got him now, I don't have him" and then laugh as though it was a big joke.  There was a time when she would telephone every single evening and talk to him for an hour - our evening would be spoiled.  When she was not feeling well, I used to cook two dinners, one for us and one for them.  (My husband would take their dinner over - they didn't live too far away) and then come home for our dinner.  She would look at him and ask "you"re not eating with us?" and look disappointed and sad if he didn't stay.  Sometimes he felt obliged to stay. Finally, I had a talk with my husband (who felt worn out too) and told him he had to be firm, bring the dinner and come home to your family.  Take control of the telephone conversation - a minute or two of "glad you are fine" and then say goodnight.  It took awhile and it did provoke some anxiety, but it worked.  I realized it had nothing to do with me - it was her insecurities, not mine.  I was still an okay person, I didn't do anything wrong.  I didn't steal her son.  I was always friendly and loving toward her but I also recognized that we needed some time alone too and tried to set boundaries. 
Your problem maybe isn't the same, but I'm hoping you can get some idea/tips from my experience.
14 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Pheonix

All reactions are normal unless they go on for days. Yesterday I got in an argument with an English lady doctor in a chat room. We were arguing about staph infection. She sounded like she had a few too many to drink and was getting her information wrong. I did Ok till she called me a lie'r. Got shaky and lost it but it only lasted a few minutes. I just thought what is the big deal I know I'm right. Do you like who you are? Do other people? If so what does it matter what one person thinks. We like you, so forget her. She is probably mad cause you took her babies attention from her.

Your friend 
Davit.
14 years ago 0 11216 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Pheonix,
 
That shaky, tingly feeling is common in panic.  If you are ever concerned talking to a doctor about your symptoms is a good idea.
 
What happened with your mother-in-law sounds very discouraging.  I hear hurt behind what you are saying.  Can you tell us a bit about that?  
 
How do you think this has affected your anxiety? What thoughts were coming up while you were going through this?
 
 

Ashley, Health Educator
14 years ago 0 517 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Phoenix,
Oh man, that is a horrible thing to experience, it's very reasonable to feel upset about it. I never got along with my ex-in-laws either, but I've heard that to some/most  mothers they become unreasonably attached to their sons. My reactions have been changing too... these days I'm like, 'all this reaction for a bit of thunder outside???' But shaking and funky feelings in your arms are 'typical' anxiety symptoms from what I know... but there is not such thing as a normal reaction to being upset. Before I had anxiety, I had NO reactions at all! People could do peculiar things to me, and I was able to ignore everything! So now, I feel like the reactions I make is not 'normal' to what I used to do... but it is a normal anxious reaction. It's reasonable to feel anxious and upset if someone's thinking of you in a certain way, especially if it's your family and someone connected to the one you love.


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