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...climbing back up again... I like to focus on solutions. What i see is people having difficulty with cessation, many who can't afford the products available. (lucky for us we could, mk) So, it seems logical to me that those who caused the problem should help solve it. Just education is not enough. There is funding for other addiction assistance, so there should be assistance for this one too. Here in Hawaii free patches are provided for some people, and I believe that is funded in part by tobacco settlement moneies, but I think there should be a wider range of options available, and available wherever tobacco companies have wreaked their damage. Tom, i agree that tobacco should be outlawed, and also believe that some assistance should be provided to tobacco FARMERS, not corporations, to tranisition to other use of their lands. That would take care of a large segment of new smokers, but I am concerned about the current smokers also. The corporations should be mandated to pay for the damages. Kita, I also agree that it is the legislators who are, in part, the key to changing things in terms of making the companies accountable. It is also the reponsibility of the judiciary to hand down judgments that addresss the harm done, not just address the marketing of cigarettes. It's clear that that hasn't made much of an impact, and the companies just move on to other markets. Thanks for your responses everyone. I'm still wondering what I, you, and others, can do to get funding for smoking cessation products from the tobacco companies. I guess one thing is to contact whoever is making decisions about how to spend the tobacco settlement monies in each state in the U.S. ...ok, stepping down again... [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/22/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 169 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 6,760 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,149.20 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 23 [B]Hrs:[/B] 15 [B]Mins:[/B] 47 [B]Seconds:[/B] 2
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Aloha, Good question! Let the debate begin! Keep it clean :) Danielle, Bilingual Support Specialist
17 years ago 0 1148 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
AWESOME ALOHA! Accountability has been on the decline. Most are too busy blamestorming to focus in on or even notice what is the root cause of this problem. What is the one thing that if erradicated would solve the problem of smoking? I believe I know the answer. If you think you know what it is, who has control over it and can change it? [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/15/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 176 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 3,520 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $739.20 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 28 [B]Hrs:[/B] 11 [B]Mins:[/B] 10 [B]Seconds:[/B] 46
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Aloha, I agree with you all the way. I don't see Phillip Morris or anyone else giving out free chantix, patches or gum. The thing you have to remember is that as long as people in Washington are lining their pockets with money from the tobacco companies nothing will change. Just like the war on drugs they are making a fortune on that too. It all comes down to money and payoffs and the goverment wins and we lose. See you at the villa in a few days :) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/21/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 170 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 3,400 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,105.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 24 [B]Hrs:[/B] 1 [B]Mins:[/B] 49 [B]Seconds:[/B] 48
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I agree aloha... Our insurance covered most of my initial Dr. visit but doesn't cover my Chantix - and so far I bought the starter pack and another month totaling about $230? Oh well, what I save by not smoking will pay for that in no time, but it's the principle of it all... Life isn't fair, and bad people don't always have to pay it seems -- but I sure am glad that we as individuals can do what we need to to overcome and survive regardless of those more interested in money than lives... Wish I could write more but we're on our way to a family pot luck at babykitty's school. I'll check back later... Love your brain... mk [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]8/14/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 24 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 360 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $90.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 2 [B]Hrs:[/B] 13 [B]Mins:[/B] 11 [B]Seconds:[/B] 52
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.....dragging my soap box over and climbing up As various governments around the world continue to approach the eradication of tobacco use through raising taxes on tobacco products and passing laws prohibiting the use of smoke-producing tobacco products in public and working places, and now, in the U.S., considering placing tobacco under FDA jursidiction, I am wondering where accountability by the tobacco companies fits in. Sure, there have been some huge lawsuits settled over the years, yet they continue to produce their addictive products. It seems to me that when other products are deemed unsafe, the parent company ceases to produce the product, and are held accountable to the indivdiuals who were harmed by them. Not so with the tobacco companies. If governments acknowledge the damage being done by cigarettes and snuff (is that the right word these days?), and want to outlaw or regulate the use of them, why not hold the tobacco companies directly responsible to the injured parties (the smokers and dippers) for relief? Maybe I am unaware of the existence of programs that are funded by the tobacco companies to assist those who want to quit smoking or dipping, by providing smoking cessation products. I know there are support sites that derive partial or maybe even full funding from the tobacco companies, but why not require them to provide patches, gums, lozenges, and medication such as chantix and wellbutrin, as well as pay for the doctor's visits to get them prescribed? That, to me, would be holding them accountable for righting the wrong they have done. Anybody agree or disagree? If you agree, do you have any idea as to how this can be accomplished? .....climbing down, but leaving the soap box [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/22/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 169 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 6,760 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,149.20 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 23 [B]Hrs:[/B] 15 [B]Mins:[/B] 34 [B]Seconds:[/B] 23

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