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17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1698

That should say " dualistic thinking." [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/20/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 133 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 2,394 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,330.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 30 [B]Hrs:[/B] 9 [B]Mins:[/B] 17 [B]Seconds:[/B] 14

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1698

If it works for you Unhooked thats all that matters .The truth is that its normal North American thinking the experts call it duaslistic thinking some eastern cultures suggest that this is the root of many of our problems in the west.But thats a whole other discussion and not one that I'me really equipped to expand on. ;) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/20/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 133 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 2,394 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,330.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 30 [B]Hrs:[/B] 9 [B]Mins:[/B] 16 [B]Seconds:[/B] 24

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 3541

My "junkie" helps me to acknowledge that I have an addiction and that while it belongs to me, it does not have to always be with me. "I" don't smoke & "I" don't want to so "I" won't. Sometimes, the junkie wants to & if I have to tell myself in my head, "no you don't smoke anymore, here have some nice yummy water & a delicious chewy coffee straw", I feel deprived and get defensive & start arguing with myself (OK, maybe nicotine addiction isn't the only thing I should deal with), and chances are because it's me against me, I'm going to win. Often, it's the defensive, deprived me. And that isn't really winning at all. If I acknowledge that thought but call it the junkie's that lives in my head, then I'm depriving her, not myself and I can say all manner of nasty things to her & since I really don't want to smoke, I will win, not the junkie. Sorry, Bear, that probably makes absolutely no sense. Like I said, I know it's a sily little game I play but it works. [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]5/13/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 79 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 1,580 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $869.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 7 [B]Hrs:[/B] 21 [B]Mins:[/B] 42 [B]Seconds:[/B] 37

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1698

Unfortunatly we have gotten a wee bit off topic. Once we have acknowledged the fact that we have an addiction what is the need for a fictious character like a " nicodemon". To me this is much like saying " the devil made me do it ". Anyhow it was just some thing that kind of bugged me and I realy coulnd'nt see how it helped in the recovery from nicotine addiction ?? [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/20/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 133 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 2,394 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,330.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 30 [B]Hrs:[/B] 8 [B]Mins:[/B] 7 [B]Seconds:[/B] 58

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 3541

There is a lot of addiction in my family as well, and my siblings have all struggled with at least one form. I was certainly physically addicted as well as emotionally and smoking didn't exactly cover up emotions for me, it made them easier to bear somehow. Less intense. Here's where we part ways, Rusty, because, for me, smoking did make my joys less joyful. The fact that there is a history of addiction in my family and that my generation is having a hard scrap to break the cycle, could mean we are somehow predisposed, or "at risk" genetically. It's possible, but it isn't the way I see it. I think it's because each generation learned it from the one before & passed it to the next. We were predisposed and at risk because it was all around us, a fact of growing up, and as Lainey said those pivotal teen years were the crucial time when we chose the path well-worn by those who went before us. Or maybe, the answer is some combination of all of these factors, in a certain person at a certain time. Why should we think there's an easy answer to the why and how of such difficult & complicated thing? And, here's where we join up again, Rusty, everyone should believe and think and feel in the way that works for them! [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]5/13/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 78 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 1,560 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $858.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 7 [B]Hrs:[/B] 21 [B]Mins:[/B] 27 [B]Seconds:[/B] 23

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1543

Rusty Perfectly said!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]1/21/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 190 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 3,800 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $849.30 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 25 [B]Hrs:[/B] 0 [B]Mins:[/B] 55 [B]Seconds:[/B] 20

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 2462

I believe that it has been shown that the predisposition to addiction is a risk factor that is carried in the genes. I also believe that I did not smoke to cover up my feelings. I smoked because I was physically addicted. Thirdly, smoking did not cover up my emotions. I could not have felt any worse when my parents died, nor could I have been any happier when my children were born. And lastly, I believe that addiction is nothing to do with morals or character. These are only my beliefs. As Sparky says, everyone is free to believe as they choose. Rusty :) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]12/13/2004 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 959 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 26,852 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $3,356.50 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 135 [B]Hrs:[/B] 7 [B]Mins:[/B] 40 [B]Seconds:[/B] 17

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17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 3875

I guess I agree with Unhoooked to a degree, and here is why. If you look at what we did in our addiction, ie. cover up our emotions with smoke, look at what an alcoholic does, covers up his or her emotions with booze, or a heroine or crack addict covering up their emotions with drugs. Watch a documentary on any drug addiction of any type, and when the person says why they are addicted...they take the drugs because they couldn't handle feelings of some kind or other along the way and found that the drug of their choice smothered the feelings to make them bearable. Now I don't think its genetic or else it would run in families. It may be a simple as a character flaw. You notice sometimes how some people are way more emotional than others. I know I am way more emotional than two of my three sisters, there is one sister who is way more emotional than me. I think it comes down to how we were taught to deal with emotions, be it by our parents, a teacher, friends or what, we learn these things in our teens, (Notice how thats when we all started smoking) trying to fit in because of our emotional need to feel like we belong, etc. If we didn't have a role model who could teach us how to release the emotions and move forward, then we looked for a crutch to help hide behind, or something to kill some kind of pain. Now we are having to learn these very lessons as adults. They are not that tough of lessons but perhaps harder to learn at 16 then now! So I think emotional issues are the roots of most addictions and in our new society where it seems to be perfectly okay to laugh at other people's mistakes, downfalls and failures, even just at their looks. there will be more addictons come along, as there are no rules in society to help young people deal with the stress anymore. :) [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]3/5/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 147 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 3,675 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $1,550.85 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 18 [B]Hrs:[/B] 1 [B]Mins:[/B] 4 [B]Seconds:[/B] 13

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 3307

I had better keep my opinion to myself. Each person is intitled to their thought. Whatever works for you, do it as long as no one gets hurt. Keep the Quit Sparky [B]My Milage:[/B] [B]My Quit Date: [/B]4/30/2007 [B]Smoke-Free Days:[/B] 91 [B]Cigarettes Not Smoked:[/B] 910 [B]Amount Saved:[/B] $273.00 [B]Life Gained:[/B] [B]Days:[/B] 12 [B]Hrs:[/B] 8 [B]Mins:[/B] 18 [B]Seconds:[/B] 58

17 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8760

Thank you Bear for starting an interesting discussion! For some, visualizing the nicodemon helps them to direct their frustrations when craving. Just as everyone is unique so will the reasons for making that first choice as will the contributing factors they believe kept them making that same choice. Please feel free to continue sharing your viewpoints but remember to keep it clean. Danielle, Bilingual Support Specialist

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