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Looking to Change.....

Hi all,

It's a strange thing coming around to the realization that I am an addict and need to make changes. My story:

I'm 51, self employed, married 27 years with 2 kids (24yo special needs son, 20yo son). 

10 months ago I quit smoking cold turkey. Was a pack a day man for 30 years. Tried to quit half heartedly a few times before, but last quit was motivated by a bet with my 20yo old son to get him to quit smoking too (it worked). It was hard but I was motivated. 

So in the last 10 months I've gained about 25 pounds - partly due to the quitting smoking (I'm hungry all the time since I quit) and partly because of getting older and also liking my home cooking. And likely my drinking....

I hit 250 lbs a few weeks ago. I'm over 6'0" and doctor said I would feel much better being down around 200lbs. I started to get a stomach and noticed it one day getting ready for a fundraiser and my dress shirt was tight. Also I was starting to dislike looking in the mirror at myself without a shirt on. I just had a bigger 'beer gut.  

Long story short I decide I need to get my weight under control. Rather than dieting I decide I need to make a lifestyle change so I hit the internet and start looking up men over 50 (sigh, I feel old now) weight management. Aside from realizing that i need to start looking at portion sizes, cutting out snacks and looking at total calories, I keep reading about the amount of calories in alcohol. So is start researching alcohol and it effects, then alcohol and quitting drinking, etc. 

I downloaded myfitnesspal and started to log my caloric intake. A bit of an eye opener. I never thought about how much calories were involved in beer. Some days i'm drinking over 1000 calories of beer. So if I want to lose weight I'm gonna have to do something about my beer drinking as well. 

Cutting out that bag of potato chip at nights was easy (although I do miss those ketchup flavoured chips). Cutting out beer though......

So I was drinking between 3 and 9 beers a day. Mostly light beer that I could drink like it was water. Although I'd alternate with a premium honey brown ale which I usually drank less when I did buy it. Some weekends in the summer doing yard work or whatnot I could go through a 24 case easy. But I didn't think I had a drinking problem. If we were out and about I  could go all day without a drink and not think about it. And most evenings I would stop drinking by about 8pm. The occasional scotch and amaretto on the rocks in the evening, or maybe a glass of wine. I also never had more than 1 drink if I was to be driving anywhere (driving as part of my work forced me to be responsible with no drinking and driving - otherwise no income). 

My drinking increased about 10 years ago. It became daily. Heck some days my first beer would be at 11am if I was out doing yard work. I would have the rare days I would not drink. In a week there was probably an average of 2 days where my drinks were less than 3. 

It was rare for me to be 'drunk'. Worst was the lack of energy and the wanting to go to bed earlier.  Last hangover I had was in the spring when visiting family in Europe and I drank way too much Vodka in celebration with my cousins. 

So, in trying to lose some weight I am faced with the reality of my alcohol use - wow I really do have a problem with how much I'm drinking. 

So 2 weeks ago I decide i'm going to cut down. I decide that for the short term I won't buy beer for home. Everything I read suggest there may be withdrawal, so for a week I dri
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Looking to Change.....

Not sure but first post was cut off...here is the rest:

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So 2 weeks ago I decide i'm going to cut down. I decide that for the short term I won't buy beer for home. Everything I read suggest there may be withdrawal, so for a week I drink 2 of my favourite scotch and amaretto's each night. Last Friday I had nothing to drink. Saturday went out to darts with a buddy and I had 4 pints of beer. Since then I have not had a drink. It only 3 days today, but I feel a bit better. 

The withdrawal is not so much physical as it is mental for me. The routine of having a beer is what I miss. Kind of like when I quit smoking, the nicotine addiction was over in 2 weeks, but the mental side took me almost half a year to get over. 

I'm getting motivated to keep this up. Not sure if I want to commit to quitting drinking altogether, or restrict drinking to only social occasions, but as the days pass and the more I read the more I think it may be better to quit. I didn't start on this journey to quit drinking, I just wanted to lose some weight. 

It is a bit hard to write out what I did about the drinking. To read it now I sound much worse that I saw myself when it came to drinking. 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Looking to Change.....

foxman,

I appreciate the honest words.

Much like quitting smoking, I'm starting to think that I may need to keep off alcohol altogether, or risk being back to the same place I was. I suppose that I sort of stumbled onto quitting drinking by looking to lose weight, but I started to explore my drinking as a result. And I suppose I am still in that process now. 

A bit of an eye opener just to write it all out as I did. You always do think of others as having a problem, not yourself. Then I look at how much I was drinking and that is a problem. 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Start of a Journey....


So today is day 4 without a drink for me. It feels good. 

Last night I was at the Leafs game. My son had a few beers, but for me I abstained; however, I was driving so no feeling of missing out on something either.

As I mentioned in my 'Looking to Change...' discussion I kind of stumbled onto the idea of cutting back or quitting drinking because I started to change my diet to lose weight, and I really awoke to the effects of my drinking. So far I've not really committed to quitting drinking. I suppose I am just taking this out for a test drive. Seems odd to decide to not have a drink ever again. But that is what I did when I quit smoking. 

Anyway, so far I am not having any major withdrawal issues. Feeling a bit thirsty and drinking more water. Not feeling like I need a beer or that I am missing it.

On the plus side I do feel a bit better overall - nothing exactly specific, just a general sense of well being. 

On my other discussion Lynn123 asked me:
Have you tried to moderate your drinking in the past?  You mentioned abstinence as something you may need to think about.  How does the thought of no alcohol make you feel?

I have moderated my drinking somewhat in the past 10 years. I've gone spells where I was drinking less. 
As for abstinence and thought of no alcohol, I haven't really gone down that path yet. So far I am just testing the waters so to speak. 

4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Start of a Journey....

Some people can go all week without a drink and not think about it. 

Here I am on my 5th day without and feeling proud of myself. 

Last night we had friends over and both wine and beer were being consumed. It didn't bother not to drink. I thought about it though. So it was a conscious decision to not drink. 

 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Examining my own drinking

It is hard to take a close look at my own drinking and admit to myself that I had a problem. 

I mean I enjoyed drinking beer. I wasn't nasty, or fall down drunk. Heck, my kids at times worried more about my wife that would look a bit tipsy after a couple of glasses of wine. They didn't think about my drinking, well, because I was always drinking but not being a problem. 

The last few weeks I've taken a hard look at my drinking habits, read up a lot about the negative effects of drinking and started to look at the benefits of quitting. You never like thinking about the negative effects. Could I really have screwed my liver that badly? 

I worried about withdrawal. Minor so far and mostly some dry mouth, anxiety and lots of moments of wanting to have a drink. 

I'm starting to feel better overall. Partly because I'm watching what I'm eating, but I think mostly because I haven't drank in nearly a week. 

Will keeping off drinking make much of a difference? 




4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Examining my own drinking

I think I fall into the second group. 

I'm on day 6 without a drink, and going on 2 weeks since I last really drank beer regularly.  I keep waiting for some great revelation to hit me about how much better i feel, or weight I'm losing, or something. Those milestones to look for. 

The bigger item at stake is I think I am really starting to consider just cutting out drinking altogether. Part of me thinks about just taking a break and then maybe allowing the odd drink when I go out, etc. Part of me worries that I'll return to my old ways in short order. I don't know. I wasn't planning on this, but now that I've gone this stretch without a drink I kind of like the 'freedom'. 

I haven't stopped at the beer store in a few weeks now. No empties cluttering my garage. That's something. 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Start of a Journey....

One week today with no alcohol. 

I've adjusted pretty well so far. Drinking lots more water helps. I'm down a couple of pounds as well, thanks to saving all those calories by not drinking beer. 

Now I read somewhere to give it 3 months if I want to change my drinking patterns. It seems pretty hard to go 3 months with no drinks. I mean alcohol is just so prevalent be it a home, in a restaurant, at a gala dinner, etc. With Christmas coming I can see all sorts of opportunities. I guess being the designated driver is one way to minimize the temptation. 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Examining my own drinking

Dave and Lynn,

As much as I am sitting on the fence, part of me is starting to look at quitting drinking the same as quitting smoking. I came to realize from several attempts to quit smoking that I was an addict and if I even just took a few drags, before long I'd be back to pack a day. 

I think this is taking time for me to accept what it is that I am committing to - quitting drinking.  Part of me feels like it is not such a big problem, then I look at my drinking pattern and realize I was a heavy drinker. Rationalizations. 

I'm on day 8, and although I miss having a beer, it is no where close to a craving or an all encompassing need. I'm pretty proud of myself to get this far and for all the soul searching I've been doing on it. 
4 years ago 0 11 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Examining my own drinking

So I had a couple of glasses of wine with dinner on Sunday night. In a way I felt like I was somehow cheating. 
I don't feel like I have broken some vow, but part of me is disappointed. 

That being said I am not drinking regular like I was. 

Maybe this was a good thing. It caused me to stop and think about whether I really want to drink. Whether I can really only have the occasional drink. 

 I have no illusions. I worry that next time I won't stop at 2 glass of wine. 

Decisions......