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Red

I wonder if an anxiety condition about a physical aliment such as IBS or ulcerative colitis just gets better or if the reduction in your anxiety made it better. I guess the old saying sound mind sound body applies here. Ever since I stopped taking the medication from the doctor and decided that I am no longer going to take these pills and be a victim I have been feeling better about myself. I think a sense of self control and self help about my problems instead of covering them with pills gives me an entirely different attitude toward life. Although I am I no way cured I am doing the best thing I can do for myself which is to change my attitude. I only wish I did not wait so long to do it because I have had a long time to develop a negative thinking pattern.

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Davit

I have had several physical things wrong with me I in fact lost all my hearing in both ears and then regained most of the right ear hearing back. I think this was the genesis of my total inability to cope with anxiety. As you can imagine when I lost my hearing in my left ear and had vertigo for year the doctors mad I diagnoses of elimination. By that they checked for brain tumours and everything else. I have read about what they diagnosed me with and it a common condition to temporally get vertigo and very seldom do people lose their hearing. But as unlikely as it was it happened to me twice losing all hearing for a temporary time. They cannot say why it happened nor can they say that it will never happen again. So I can’t determine the likelihood of it happening the odds are very small for it to happen to both ears but I managed to beat the odds. But believe it or not I have a different attitude towards the possibility I, if it happens again and I lose all my hearing my life is not over it is just changed. Thanks for the advice about finances I have indeed prepared for the worst but I am now hopping for something better than just living of a disability pension.

Dizzy

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Sunny

I was wondering if continuing to say the positive or alternative thought worked for you. Or possible by continuing to change the negative thought I may see a thought that appeals to me then more than my first challenge. What I guess I am asking is the first alternative thought produced by my challenge the one and only and best alternative thought or could another challenge with more introspection give me a better outcome. Perhaps I can’t believe my alternative thought because I have not got to the root of it. I also agree with you I don’t know your age but I have had negative thoughts and anxiety since I can remember and a life time of maladaptive thinking is a hard thing to change.

Dizzy

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Jason

I have read session 3 a couple of times I have identified and labelled the negative thought that I am having most catastrophizing and black and white thinking. I also know that these negative thought are a result of an overactive imagination always imagining the worst. I have determined what would have to happen for the worst possible outcome to happen. And putting the events that would have to happen together as they would have to be for the worst thing to happen I have concluded that it would be extremely unlikely that all these events could happen. So the alternative thought is it’s very remotely possible but highly unlikely. Please tell me what specifically more I should get from session 3. Is the fact that I can’t stop thinking about the unlikely outcome the source of your suggestion about rereading it?  I have proved that the worst event is unlikely to happen do I have to consider how bad it would be to get to the other side? Even though it is unlikely to happen I have planned for the possibility if it did I have made I decision and have minimized the effect it could have on me if it did happen. Therefore I have a sense of control over the future event and a sense of control leaves me with a sense of security and not a victim. Is this over analyzing things too much any further response would be appreciated.

Dizzy

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Hi Dizzy:  welcome to the forums.  Sorry to hear about your dizzy spells with your left ear problems.  I've had dizzy spells too, just rolling over in bed sometimes tells me what kind of day it's going to be.  Not fun.  Luckily for me it usually only last a little while in the a.m.  It does take time and lots of practice to believe your positive thoughts.  Even if you don't believe it 100%, think it, say it anyway.  If you've been thinking negatively for a long time, it's going to take awhile for the positive to sink in but it will.  Keep the faith, keep practicing and believe that you will get better.  As with the other coping techniques, such as muscle relaxation and breathing, it takes time and practice. 
We're all here for you supporting you in your bad times and celebrating the good times.
Sunny
13 years ago 0 223 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi dizzy,
 
You have made great strides in challenging your negative thoughts.  While you may feel that it will be hard to believe the alternative outcomes to your negative thoughts, things will get easier with consistency.
 
My advice would be to continue challenging these thoughts as you have.  It may seem pointless, but as many have pointed out, it does work.
 
Take your time through this step.  And if at all possible, take another read through session 3: challenging negativity.  Its amazing how much more we take away from this section on a second read.
 
Keep sharing both your successes and challenges with us.
 

Jason, Bilingual Health Educator
13 years ago 0 659 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Dizzy,
Drew,
 
Sorry to hear you are having a hard time with the IBS.  I have had ulcerative colitis for a number of years now and know what a problem it can cause with being able to get out not to mention the pain involved. I did have a part of my colon die at one time and have since healed.   One thing I have noticed is that since I have be able to get my anxiety levels down my ulcerative colitis is a lot better. Anxiety does take a toll on our bodies. I hardly ever have to take meds for it now.  I don't know if it is a benefit of working the program here and the support group or what.  Where ever it is, it is working.  Knock on wood.   There is hope it can and does get better.  Hang in there.
 
Red
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Hey, so sorry to hear what your going through...my agoraphobia started with my IBS,  i didnt like going out incase i had a bout of IBS and had an "accident" and then the panic from that made me slightly anxious so then i needed to urinate more so then i panicked when i wwas out if i wasnt near a toilet...so embarrasing. But i know alot of people with anxiety have the same problem. Stick in there, we'll get better together. I dont quite beleive my thoughts either that i put in place of my negative ones...i want to beleive them, god i do but its like my minds against me and i still dont beleive my positive thoughts...i know ive never came to any harm, i know ive never gone crazy or lost control, ive never really had anything major wrong with me that i havnt been able to cope with before and yet my mind doesnt beleive the positives, stupid isnt it.
 
Wish you well,
Drew
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Hi dizzy

God I do not like vertigo but lucky for me it never lasts more than a day and I have not had it in a while. I know what you mean about hospitals. I've spent a lot of time in them. I have chronic staph infection on top of arthritis. With the system the way it is Doctors are loath to treat it till there are obvious clinical signs, In which case I can't walk any more and end up back in the hospital. For this reason I use a lap top and have a cell phone. That is just preparation. Now I am doing prevention to keep me out of the hospital. With my Doctors approval I am taking a low dose of antibiotic every day. Fewer side effects and less anxiety. But the chances of having to go back still hangs over my head. A good formula for panic.
I have absolutely no family to fall back on, but I do have friends that help me. I also have a disability pension. I am sure there must be some financial help if there should be no other way and you can't work. But that is not so important right now. What is, is why you are having panic attacks and what to do about them. The program will give you relief fairly fast as will posting often. Learning relaxing and coping skills along with journaling will take care of panic attacks when they happen. When you can do this then working on core beliefs and doing exposure will get rid of them. They might still show up but as "blue" days not as panic. You will learn how to live with these so you can function. 
Right now you are playing the negative "what if" game and from your last paragraph you do no how to play the positive "what if".

So welcome to the site and welcome to the group.
Here for you.
Davit
13 years ago 0 118 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0

I guess I made it unclear as to my problem. Although I challenge my thoughts I have I hard time in believing the alternative thought that i have generated.


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