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This is an interesting thread !!! When I was diagnosed with GAD, and SAD, I searched and searched for reasons and got very hung up on it. My family, as they were so worried looked around too for possible causes. I did have a difficult childhood I guess, although at the time I probably didn't think it was harder than anyone else's. There are lots of possible reasons, but its not like a physical illness when you can say with certainty that this ( alcohol for example ) caused that ( liver damage, for example ). We can surmise I think, but its very difficult to be 100% sure what caused it. Sometimes , not always I know, its just life itself, and not being able to cope with something thats happening at the time and not necessarily something that happened in the past, and sometimes if the 'cause' isn't clear, I wonder how important it is to know. I'm not sure what started my descent into such depths that I experienced, but ( and I never , ever thought I'd say this ) I believe I'm a better person because of it. I've learn't a lot about myself, whats important, priorities, all sorts of things, and horrible tho it was at the time, I'm glad I went through it. I remember reading a book when I was really bad that said the same, and I thought the author was mad !! I think I understand a bit more now, and certainly know myself better. I've rambled on a bit here, and got off the subject a bit, but I guess what I'm trying to say, is the 'cause' may not always be important, but the lessons we can learn from it are. I hope that makes some kind of sense !!!
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Hi all and thanks for sharing your experiences. I don't feel so alone in trying to understand why... I didn't have the best childhood either. A very cold, aloof Dad who was never around...and if he was he was rather abusive, to my Mom, Me and my Sister. I was a tough kid, but an anxious one. I remember my first day of school, I screamed and screamed for hours, they ended up sending me home, this went on thorough out my Kindergarten days. I had sense a fear of the unknown as a child. I would not be separated from my Mom. She was my caregiver and my protector! When I was 14 I spent the whole year with an odd sleep disturbance. If that is what you could call it... As I would have to go to bed with a bucket because of such severe nausea w/vomiting. It would hit me just as soon as I tried to lay down. I lost so much weight, the doctor thought it was bulimia. They did all sorts of tests and couldn't find anything wrong with my GI tract. But I never thought I was over weight, all I wanted was to just sleep and not spend my nights doing this. I particularly remember shaking uncontrollably. It got so bad that I was afraid of my bed and needed to try to sleep in a different place (sofa and etc.) each night just to try to ease the fear. Just as soon daylight hit it would all stop! I had a lot of social anxiety at school. I had trouble speaking in front of the class and I had a fear of being around people. I had only a few select friends at school. Even though I was told that I was a highly likable person. I chose to keep to myself. As a young adult (16-29), I would rather be around people, but not part of what they are doing. I guess I could say, I disliked being alone, but I didn't want people becoming too close... But needless to say my young adult years were my best years of my life when it came to anxiety. Then I was married and then came my daughter at 29. Pregnancy was rough, I discovered new things about my body that frightened me. And shortly after her birth I had major surgery that changed my life forever. I woke up from surgery with a very high heart rate and they told me they almost lost me, due to an allergy to an anesthetic. I stayed in the hospital for a month, I was so sick and I was so afraid. While I was there I had my first panic attacks so they say. I was diagnosed at 32 as having PSTD and DID due to abuse. I have since worked through the issues and no longer suffer with dissociation. But the panic attacks continue on... I am now 41. My daughter also suffers from panic attacks. She is also autistic. My daughter had her first panic attack, just after she woke up from a major 5 hour surgery in which they almost lost her. Then she was 10 years old then. My daughter has never seen abuse. Could this have just been a coincidence? Genetics? I guess I will never know...
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Great discussion here! As mentioned above, the causes and contributing factors to the development of panic/anxiety vary widely but I'm happy to see a few of you find some commonalities. Keep it coming! Danielle, Bilingual Support Specialist
16 years ago 0 1 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hello all: Well, in addition to the panic/anxiety disorder, we also have Chronic/Complex PTSD ... as a result of severe childhood trauma/abuse. In response to the question ... could that have happened and a person not recall it ... yes, it's possible, we certainly have forgotten/repressed much of the childhood. But, we know people who have panic & anxiety problems that didn't have any history of childhood trauma/abuse. So, it's probably just one of the possible reasons for developing panic & anxiety disorder. There are, most likely a variety of reasons for developing a panic/anxiety disorder. Personally, we don't think the cause of the problems has to be firmly established to deal with the problems now. Just need to want to learn how to contend with and manage things now. There's tons of time to deal with the past. But learning to manage the issues coming up today is what is really important ... well, that's just how we look at it anyway ... it gets us from moment to moment anyway. Take care all: Alex
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I started with anxiety and panic when I was 19 yrs old ( i'm 36 now) and it seemed to have come from nowhere. I didn't have a traumatic childhood though my parents were extremely cold people and I never had much love from them. When I had my kids it seemed to go away and I didn't have a panic attack for years, but then both my kids have since been diagnosed with Diabetes, Epilepsy and a heart problem between them and this has bought all the anxiety back again with frequent trips to A&E and operations so now the anxiety is rife again and i'm now slightly agrophobic.
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Well I personnally think that one can have anxiety without childhood trauma. As I have said, I donèt have childhood traumas to talk about really and it didnèt stop me from having this as a teenager! I think it is possible to have this disorder for numerous reasons! That is my opinion anyway :) -Diva
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I don't think I can pinpoint the source of my anxoiety/panic disorder that precisely. I was always a nervous kind of afraid child. As a teenager my life became a nightmare I was prone to panic /anxiety, major depression, self-mutilation,etc... But I think my life was pretty good all in all. My mom is super great and my dad and me get along much better now :) When I was a child I cannot recall any abuse from anyone. On paper, my life looks perfect. Hard-working father, loving mother, great siblings, financially comfortable... just perfect. Yet I developped GAD and panic disorder early on. And yeah, my life in reality was not as perfect as it looked on paper but to me it doesn't explain my disorder per se. That to a certain extent made it hard for people to get what was wrong with me. People around me were like: "your life was and is better then mine why are you so panicked and depressed". Psychiatrists always asked me if I had been abused, they thought I had "symptoms of it" but i honestly wasnèt so hmm... It took a long time and many therapy hours to get through the whole mess, and the whole time people around me wanted a clear answer as to why I am the way I am and to this day I donèt have a clearcut answer for them...But at least now, the people who are still in my life donèt care why I am the way I am they love me that way and that is that^^. So, it is hard for me to figure out, why I have this disorder. I spent many years figuring it out, the complex interactions between the many pieces of the puzzle. Now, I decided to focus more on things I can really pinpoint. What are my anxious thought and challenging them. What are my biggest fears how can i get over them (exposure). I figure since I can't pinpoint the source of my problem I might as well concentrate on: now that I have this what can I do about it lol! -Diva
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Thanks everyone for their posts and stories! Thanks Danielle for information, I found it interesting and useful :)
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Hello to all! It's great to see you all posting in your individual experiences. I hope that this thread will help you find some commonality with each other. Below is some more information on the contributing factors to the development of panic disorder. I hope this helps you understand panic a little better also! " There are no clear-cut answers as to why some people develop an anxiety disorder, although research suggests that a number of factors may be involved. Like most mental health problems, anxiety disorders appear to be caused by a combination of biological factors, psychological factors and challenging life experiences, including: * stressful or traumatic life events * a family history of anxiety disorders * childhood development issues * alcohol, medications or illicit substances * other medical or psychiatric problems Psychological factors The two main schools of thought that attempt to explain the psychological influences on anxiety disorders are the cognitive and behavioural theories. The ideas expressed by these theories help us to understand cognitive behavioural treatment, which will be outlined in the next chapter. A third way of looking at the psychological causes of anxiety is developmental theory, which seeks to understand our experience of anxiety as adults by looking at what we learn as children. Cognitive Theory Danger is a part of life. To protect us, evolution has genetically prepared us to fear danger.We know to avoid vicious animals and to be careful at great heights. Cognitive theory suggests, however, that people with anxiety disorders are prone to overestimate danger and its potential consequences. For example, people may overestimate the danger of particular animals, such as spiders or snakes, and thus believe that harm from that animal is far greater and more common than it actually is. Thinking of the worst possible scenario, they may imagine that a snake will bite and poison them, when it may be completely harmless. This is known as catastrophizing, and is common among people with anxiety disorders. People who overestimate danger tend to avoid situations that might expose them to what they fear. For example, a person who fears flying will avoid trips that require air travel. Such behaviours are referred to as safety behaviours because they momentarily allow a person to feel less anxiety. However, when feared situations are avoided, the fears are strengthened. Cognitive theory suggests that fears can be reduced when people are able to experience the thing that they fear, allowing them to see that it is not as dangerous as they once believed. Behavioural Theory Behavioural theory suggests that people learn to associate the fear felt during a stressful or traumatic life event with certain cues, such as a place, a sound or a feeling.When the cues reoccur, they cause the fear to be re-experienced. Once the association between the fear and the cue is learned, it is automatic, immediate and out of conscious control. The fear is felt before there is time to tell if danger is near. Such cues may be external or internal. An example of an external cue might be a certain smell that occurred at the time of the stressful event.When this smell occurs again, even at a time when there is no danger present, the person is reminded of the event and becomes fearful. Internal cues, such as a rapid heart rate, may also provoke fear if the person€™s heart raced during the actual threat. Later, when the person€™s heart beats rapidly during a workout routine, he or she may become fearful. People with anxiety disorders may go to extreme lengths to avoid such cues. The original cues may even generalize to other similar cues, such as a bad encounter with a bulldog leading to the avoidance of all dogs. When people avoid such cues, they may feel more secure, but in the long run, these avoidance behaviours actually increase the anxiety associated with the cues. Avoidance prevents the person from €œunlearning€ the association, which can only be done when the person is exposed to such cues in a safe situation. Developmental Theory According to developmental theory, the way in which children learn to predict and interpret life events contributes to the amount of anxiety they experience later in life. The amount of control people feel over their own lives is strongly related to the amount of anxiety they experience. A person€™s sense of control can range from confidence that whatever happens is entirely in hands, to the person€™s feeling complete uncertainty and helplessness over upcoming life events. People who feel that life is out of their control are likely to feel more fear and anxiety. For example, these people may feel that no amount of preparation or qualifications will give them any control over the outcome of an upcoming job interview, and they arrive at the interview fearing rejection. Biological factors The biological causes and effects of anxiety disorders include problems with brain chemistry and brain activity; genetics; and medical, psychiatric and substance use issues. Regulation of Brain Chemistry Research has revealed a link between anxiety and problems with the regulation of various neurotransmitters€”the brain€™s chemical messengers that transmit signals between brain cells. Three major neurotransmitters are involved in anxiety: serotonin, norepinephrine and gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA). Serotonin Serotonin plays a role in the regulation of mood, aggression, impulses, sleep, appetite, body temperature and pain. A number of medications used to treat anxiety disorders raise the level of serotonin available to transmit messages. Norepinephrine Norepinephrine is involved in the fight or flight response and in the regulation of sleep, mood and blood pressure. Acute stress increases the release of norepinephrine. In people with anxiety disorders, especially those with panic disorder, the system controlling the release of norepinephrine appears to be poorly regulated. Some medications help to stabilize the amount of norepinephrine available to transmit messages. GABA GABA plays a role in helping to induce relaxation and sleep, and in preventing overexcitation. Medications known as benzodiazepines enhance the activity of GABA, producing a calming effect. Changes in Brain Activity Modern brain-imaging techniques have allowed researchers to study the activity of specific areas of the brain in people with anxiety disorders. Such studies have found, for example: €¢ abnormalities in cerebral blood flow and metabolism, and also structural anomalies (e.g., atrophy) in the frontal, occipital and temporal lobes of the brain €¢ that serotonin, norepinephrine and gaba activity in the limbic system, which controls memory and anxiety and fear responses, is most likely responsible for anxiety about the future €¢ that activity in the locus ceruleus (with a high number of norepinephrine neurons) and the median raphe nucleus (with a high number of serotonin neurons) appears to be involved in the production of panic attacks €¢ that activity in the norepinephrine systems in the body and the brain produces physical symptoms of anxiety, such as blushing, sweating and palpitations, which may cause people to become alarmed; these systems have also been linked to the production of flashbacks in people with post-traumatic stress disorder. Genetic Factors Research confirms that genetic factors play a role in the development of anxiety disorders. People are more likely to have an anxiety disorder if they have a relative who also has an anxiety disorder. The incidence is highest in families of people with panic disorder, where almost half have at least one relative who also has the disorder. Medical Factors Alcohol , medications and illicit substances Substance use may induce anxiety symptoms, either while the person is intoxicated or when the person is in withdrawal. The substances most often associated with generalized anxiety or panic symptoms are stimulants, including caffeine, illicit drugs such as cocaine, and prescription drugs such as methylphenidate (e.g., Ritalin®). Medical conditions A range of medical conditions can cause anxiety symptoms and result in anxiety disorders. For example, both panic and generalized anxiety symptoms can result from medical conditions, especially those of the glands, heart, lungs or brain. Most often, treatment of the medical condition reduces symptoms of anxiety. Obsessive-compulsive symptoms in children may occur following strep infections.Obsessive-compulsive symptoms may also result from other infectious and degenerative syndromes affecting the central nervous system, but this is rare. Mitral valve prolapse (a heart condition in which a heart valve is not working properly) has been associated with panic disorder, but there is no evidence supporting this link. Psychiatric conditions People with other psychiatric disorders often also have symptoms of anxiety. Sometimes it is the symptoms of the other disorder, such as depression or psychosis, that heighten a person€™s anxiety. In such cases the person may not be diagnosed as having an anxiety disorder. People who are diagnosed with anxiety disorders may also have other psychiatric disorders; most often, these are other types of anxiety disorders, or substance use disorders or depression. Two out of three people with panic disorder will have a major depressive episode at some point in their lifetime. When depression occurs in someone with an anxiety disorder, it is of particular concern since these two problems in combination increase the person€™s risk for suicide. Other factors Studies show that people who are anxious tend to have an irregular pattern of breathing, alternating from hyperventilation to holding their breath. This pattern of breathing contributes to further symptoms (e.g., lightheadedness, dizziness and possibly fainting) and increases the feelings of anxiety. Breathing retraining techniques can help these people cope or manage anxiety symptoms." (Source: Centre for Addiction & Mental Health Website) Danielle, Bilingual Support Specialist
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Hi everyone, Well like most I was raised in a very dysfunctional environment. My Father was an alcoholic who was emotionally distance in most cases. We all walked around on eggshells as we never knew what might set him off. My older siblings would argue and have physical confrontations with my Father when he would act inappropiatly especially with us younger ones. When I was 25 years old my Father became very ill and was dying and that is when I finally disclosed what had happened to me as a child. I had buried it, I thought, pretty deep but my actions during my teen years (self-mutilation, drinking, minor drug use, and other behaviours)showed that I was acting out some issues. Once I had disclosed it seemed to open the floodgates and my brothers and sisters began to relate similiar stories. I feel that my childhood has played a major role in me developing this disorder. I seemed to be afraid of everything growing up. I was 8 years old the first time I had an attack and begged my sisters to take me to the hospital beacause I thought I was dying. What would make an 8 year old think they were dying??? So anyways thats my sordid little story.

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