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8 years ago 0 69 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
  "normie"  good one Cf

  The "normie" word,  I picture one of those annoying people that badger the one trying to,  or has quit a habit,  thinking that because you have their permission and blessing  it is all  right to partake.
 I was once a normal,  in my drunken and possibly stoned stoopper, but where I grew up, the normal ones drank everyday and passed out every weekend, but a normie would tell an obstainer that they have their permission to partake, and make an on the spot diagnoses that they have no problems.  Just a thought.

  My personal feelings about labels is that as a drinker I was able to label anyone around me as I saw fit, and express my opions how I wanted, if it was offensive to someone,  I didn't always care, so to take offence now to anything other than a direct insult to me, is highly unlikely.

In short if I could dish it out I sure should be able to take it


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Hi CF,

Just a little confused, what harm is it that you think you've caused? It's just a point of discussion.....the reason I mentioned AA is because I did a search on the AA forum I access for the word and it came up more than a few times and when I asked my friends in the program they mentioned it was a common term they used to define normal drinkers. It's unlikely the comment caused anyone any harm, in fact it seems to be have taken with humour.


This is an open forum and your insights and opinions are valued. Please continue to share. I get a lot out of your posts and I think it's safe to say your support of everyone here is extremely valuable. Thank you for that.

All the best,

Dave848
8 years ago 0 110 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
May I clarify that "Normie" is not an AA term.  

It is a term that I used as an individual, and I did not realize the harm it may cause to some.  For any harm I have caused, I am sincerely sorry.  I will not use that term again.
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Hi CF,

No offence taken. I haven't come across that one before so I assume it's an AA label ascribed to those who drink "normally".... or don't drink at all. 

So if they are a "normie" what is "abnormie"? No doubt there are characteristics in virtually every person on the planet where they seem quite abnormal to a specific group. I know for a fact many of the activities I participate in leave others scratching their heads, and it's the same for me. Why someone would want to go rock-climbing is beyond me however I appreciate the fact they can do something that leaves me quaking in my boots. Is it abnormal to rock climb? No. Can some people not stop rock climbing or they're addicted to rock climbing? Yes. I suppose my point is by calling someone else a "normie" then that would mean the group of people subscribing to the idea consider themselves abnormal. It's indirect but it's true. Why define yourself as abnormal? I can only speak for myself but that brand of labelling was part of the internal dialogue the got me here in the first place. It may feel comfortable and "normal", for lack of a better term, but is it in our best interests to continue it? Millions and millions of people out there don't think any type of drug or alcohol use/ abuse is normal. They abstain by choice. 

Labelling leads to being judgemental (whether it's myself or "them") which leads to all sorts of other negative thoughts. 

Please don't take my comments the wrong way CF. It's really just my view and so please share your thoughts as I respect your views. You're a great support here. I'm also not quite sure about the label "alcoholic". It seems more a treatable condition rather than a disease or permanent condition. 

All the best,

Dave848
8 years ago 0 110 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
"Normie" is short for "Normal Person"... not an alcoholic.  :)  I apologize if this offends anyone.  I will not use that term anymore.
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What exactly is a 'normie'? Is that a good thing or some form of labelling?
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:)

I think the same thing in my head!
8 years ago 0 9 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Normies don't understand. I like that. It made me laugh. I will keep this as my private joke and recall it the next time I hear "just control your intake". Thanks
8 years ago 0 110 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
They say that because they are not alcoholics.  They do not understand that feeling when we just need to have a drink.  And they don't understand our physical allergy, which causes us to constantly want another drink, once we have one.  And wanting more and more and more and more.  Either it's not enough, or it's PARTY TIME.... either way, I always want more.

Normies don't understand that.  
8 years ago 0 9 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
This discussion is very helpful. My particular challenge is that my husband and grown kids, who can all drink socially are more in denial than I am. "You can do it Mom, just control yourself". I am not sure why they keep saying that. They have seen me loose it so many times!

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