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9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1562

I understand you and Foxman don't agree with much of anything I post and frankly it's getting a little old having you guys throwing Big Books at me

Interesting the way you take everything personal. Why do you think I am quoting the big book for you? Recent quote to illustrate the progressive nature was for Ralph. I see you are carrying a huge resentment against AA, that I think is causing the friction. Ever consider dropping the resentment? And allowing the way it is? We share our experience and you share yours?

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1009

Hi Ralph,

Thanks for the clarification. I've been down that road too many times as well, the attempts at moderation. My personality type doesn't really lend itself to moderation. Yet I embrace that part of my personality and accept and understand the fact drinking alcohol always ends in the same place. The last time was too much and I resolved to put a complete stop to it and go for abstinence. It's not an easy process but well worth the effort. If you get to the point where your drinking problem is chronic excess (like mine was) the only way to resolve it is abstinence and learning to take control back in your life.

Jake, I wasn't suggesting Ralph doesn't have a problem (otherwise why would any of us be here) and can moderate. That's for him to decide, not any of us. As he has said, abstinence seems a better plan and I agree. I understand you and Foxman don't agree with much of anything I post and frankly it's getting a little old having you guys throwing Big Books at me and minimizing the supreme effort I've had to made to resolve this very difficult, long term drinking problem I have personally suffered from. You think I just got past this with willpower? Think again. AA is for some people and I'm glad you have found success in it. I encourage anyone to explore all options and find the combination that works for them and that includes AA. FYI, I've explored AA, been to a meeting and conversed (still am) with many people from AA. When I told them I thought I could quit on my own, well, let me must say the feedback wasn't positive or supportive. If I posed a view about drinking problems or psychology, etc it was not a positive experience. Yet I did quit, not on my own, but with the unconditional support of many people on here and a lot of other resources. I firmly believe we can all resolve this and I'll gladly do whatever I can to support their efforts.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1562

I need complete abstinence now even if I exercised some control recently, other times in the past I haven't and done stupid dangerous stuff.

Right on. The big book talks about it.

All of us felt at times that we were regaining control, but such intervals usually brief were inevitably followed by still less control, which led in time to pitiful and incomprehensible demoralization. We are convinced to a man that alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better.

I am glad your goal is total abstinence. Many don't even realize that. They still think they can control and enjoy their drinking.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 12

Thanks guys. I tried moderation for years. I need complete abstinence now even if I exercised some control recently, other times in the past I haven't and done stupid dangerous stuff. If the opportunity is there after a few I will drink myself into oblivion. So complete AF is my goal. 15 days since my "moderate relapse" . Watching my playmates and playpens more carefully. I do appreciate this place to share. Ralph

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 315

You said the magic words that you want to change. If nothing changes nothing changes. It's simple as that. In my short time I heard and seen so many stop drinking for some time and then pick up a drink. Why? Because they are not willing to thoroughly follow the path. If you are really ready to change and go to any length to do so then you are on the path to recovery. I seem to disagree with Dave some, Although I respect him and his sobriety. Any "problem drinker" sober today deserves respect. This is Dave's post It sounds like you actually moderated, which I wouldn't describe as a relapse. This is my view: Moderation is only for non alcoholics. A true alcoholic will not be able to moderate for very long. The phenomenon of craving will take over and the sprees will get progressively worst. In the BB they talk of trying to moderate. For me it is not possible I tried time and time again. The reason is simple I am an Alcoholic. One is too many and 100 is not enough. No offence Dave, I respect your will power to put the plug in the jug, I really do. I enjoy your post also. This is simply my view as a member of AA.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 12

Thank all. I drank pretty heavily during social time but went home to bed at 10:30 instead of carrying on alone at a bar which is a change. OK since then but wary of social situations.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1562

Hey Bob,

I too lost my brother in 94 but i kept drinking until 2006 when I couldn't handle it no more, I was emotionally bankrupt, though I didn't loose much of material stuff. Then AA gave me a new life. Today, I don't obsess about alcohol no more. I am free man and can go to where ever I wont to without the fear of picking up a drink. In fact, I will be on a cruise next week with family and friends. Incredible journey so far, at first I used to think, how am I going to spend the rest of my life without booze, but today I know what to do, so I absolutely have no desire to drink. Looks like you have attempted several times to quit, have you ever tried a meeting? Or atleast read the book Alcoholics Anonymous. There are free resources on the AA.org site where you can learn more about Alcoholism.

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 8

My first post... Booze abusers on booth sides of the family. Come by it naturally. Have a brother who drank himself to a point his insides wore out and he passed. Have quit before for years and relapsed for more years than that. So, I know how the drink steals my money, time, creates brain fog, impacts my weight, relationships... It's craziness and I WANT TO CHANGE! So, 4 days sober now. This is the first group I've joined. Looking forward to walking out sobriety with others. Thumbs up, BB

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1009

Hi Ralph,

Great job in exercising self-control. What exactly do you mean as "relapse". Did you get hammered? It sounds like you actually moderated, which I would't describe as a relapse.

All the best,

Dave

9 years ago 0 +0 / -0 315

Being able to stop when started is quite impressive. Good job. I could not do it.

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