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11 years ago 0 616 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Ashley.....thank you for sensing my frustration.  I am really struggling with trying to stop altogether.  When I quit smoking I made the decision to stop because I knew what it was doing to me and I also felt the stigma that came with it.  Honestly I think when I quit smoking, that's when my drinking picked up the pace even moreso.  In lacking the hand to mouth motion with smoking, I drank more to alleviate that feeling of loss of that action.  Now I was determined at the time that I was going to give up that filthy, dirty habit.  I enjoyed smoking, I really did, but I knew it was bad for me and I want to live a long life for my daughter.  I compensated by drinking more.  When I think about quitting drinking, I feel I want to do want to stop, but then I start to think "gee I already gave up something I enjoyed when I quit smoking, and I usually do like to drink, so why would I want to lose another "best friend."  It's an internal battle that I just can't seem to win.  I know that drinking is not good for me, I regret it so much when I drink too much, I hate that I've gained a few lbs, but I do have fun most of the time.  I feel like I'm constantly struggling between my desire to quit and get healthy again, and the desire to have fun and enjoy my Friday nights.  I had one sangria tonight and I actually threw away the last ounce or so.  I know it's not a huge accomplishment, but I was glad that could do that and have no desire to pour another drink.  I hope in time I will get to the decision to stop altogether and be able to stick to it.  I refuse to give up, just like I refused to give up every time I tried to quit smoking.  In the end, I won :)
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Hi Camiol,

I'm sorry to read this. I can really hear how frustrated you are. You are so strong and dedicated in all other areas of your life I can only imagine how frustrating not being able to control this is.
 
Nut let's try to look at this from a different angle, you were able to quit smoking and not look back. Smoking is an incredibly hard addiction to get over as well. So what was different about smoking? How were you different? What did you do differently?
 
 

Ashley, Health Educator
11 years ago 0 616 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
As hard as I try I just cannot get through more than four days of abstinence .  It's really frustrating and disheartening.  I said I'm tired of drinking and I want to stop, yet this damn addiction is holding strong.  Friday night I got loaded.  I was hungover on Saturday but I refused to let it mess up my day.  I went to the salon and spent 2 1/2 hours getting my hair colour corrected and a trim.  Then I did my usual shopping, housework etc.  we were invited to my bf's boyfriends house for dinner and a hit tub.  We again had a few drinks but I was sober when we left.  Again today I've had four sangrias but I'm sober.  It's been over a four hour period.  I'm so frustrated that I can't just stop, it's hard for me to understand this whole inability to quit since I quit smoking over a year ago and I'll never look back.  I don't miss it nor do I have any desire to ever put another cigarette in my mouth.  Why can't I just say enough is enough and never pour another drink again?  I hate this. 
11 years ago 0 161 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Camiol, Saddie, you're making a lot of sense.
 
Tonight I didn't drink so much wine. Not sure why not... it was a rough day. Just didn't want it. Maybe because I spoke my mind at work.

11 years ago 0 616 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi all...well for the first time in quite a while I have logged two days alcohol free.  I don't know how I did it since today I wanted to throttle my boss and quit my job.  That woman is pure evil.  I recorded zeros in my diary at lunch time today to reinforce my goal to abstain.  I hope to do the same thing tomorrow.  It feels good that I stuck to my goal even though I had a very stressful day.  I refused to let it control or influence my actions after the work day ended.  I feel strong today and I believe I can get through another day without drinking.  I'm getting sick of drinking all the time and I worry about the affects it has on my health.  

Saddie I'm afraid to count the number of drinks I've had in the past month....I think it would probably shock me.  I suppose if I averaged 4 drinks per night over 30 days....ouch that's 120 or more drinks.  Now that's scary and an eye opener as well.  Time to really commit to wanting to change.  I've tried so many times before, but I refuse to let this beat me.  I will not give up this fight, no matter how many times I slip and have to start over.  
11 years ago 0 72 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Mogas!
Sorry I haven't been on much lately. Hopefully I will change that again. Camiol, thank you so much for your encouragement. I am trying hard to not slide and am on a whole, keeping myself in check. I find it easier during the week when my husband is out of town. If I have no wine, I drink no wine! But, when he is home I enjoy a couple of glasses of wine with him but often go to 3 or 4. Also, I find excuses to drink like snow day! The good thing about that was I came home and didn't drink anymore.
So I followed my diary and for the the past 24 days I have had 41 glasses of wine. Okay, that is less than two per day(only slightly) but I do want to not drink most nights and then occasionally allow myself to drink with my maximum of 4. Which is still too much. But, like you, I have learned to water the wine down with ice and it does take alot longer to drink. Also, 4 glasses of wine is less from the bottle than it used to be when I water it down. But this week, it is back again to being sober on most days. I would like to limit my drinking to only 3 times per week. So that is my goal again. I will strive hard to meet it. I am in the middle of  half marathon training and I do know I run better when I haven't been drinking. So..........  I haven't totally failed, I just haven't totally succeeded! That sounds better doesn't it?!
Thanks everyone for being here. PJ I haven't seen much from you lately. I hope all is going well. Take care everyone!
THINK BEFORE YOU DRINK!
Saddie

11 years ago 0 616 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Saddie I can totally relate to how you're feeling.  I too have difficulty with wine. As it seems that's what most women are addicted to.  I can do great for a while, limit myself to only one or two glasses a night mixed with club soda then one night I lose all control and get loaded and black out.  Now I can say that the blackouts have been very few and far between since I joined in May, but I'm still striving for no more overindulgences where wine is concerned.  I understand how you can go a period of time without drinking then think that you have a handle on it and open that bottle of wine.  It's like a seduction to us and we just want it so badly.  I also tried the no more wine at home.....but the allure of the wine always has me stopping at the liquor store on Friday after work.  

Don't let yourself get discouraged, it is a tough battle to fight.  With the knowledge that we have an addiction and the desire to keep it under control, in the end we shall persevere.
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Hang in there gang.
Much love
 
- PjH
 
11 years ago 0 72 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Mogas!
Well I haven't been on this site too much lately. I went out of town and then got sick. However, I have also been slipping back into my wine drinking ways. This disappoints me very much.  I did not get to go out of town with my husband this past weekend for Valentine's Day because I still was sick. However, I had gotten white wine in anticipation of going out and ended up drinking it at home. I drank 4 glasses over 2 nights then my husband brought more home and I drank 4 in one night. First slip there. Then, I went to Bunco, which last month I didn't drink any wine at. This month I decided I could handle it, but ended up drinking about 5 glasses that night. I had not eaten much and it made me feel very dizzy. Luckily, I wasn't driving. Last night I went out to dinner and had 2 glasses. Today it snowed and iced which is unusual where I live. When that happens we have SNOW DAY!  So, I drank about 4-5 glasses of wine over the afternoon of about 5 hours. Not driving again so at least that is good. I did come home and have not drank any more. My question to myself is, Am I headed back down that drinking road again? I was so proud of myself for doing so well and now I am disappointed. I know I can stop it but I need some encouragement here! Anyone got any? I know when I don't have it at home I don't drink it. But if it is here I do. So, no more at home, but I keep finding reasons to go out and drink it. Help!!!!!
THINK BEFORE YOU DRINK
Saddie

11 years ago 0 616 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Good morning everyone.  Shiobhan I am so glad you understand how work can wreak havoc on our lives.  I do believe it may have just caught up with me in the physical sense.  This Monday was a holiday here in Ontario and I had to go to the office...I did take last Friday off as my holiday.  Anyway my back was really sore and I felt if I made one wrong move it would go out on me.  I have a long history of back problems and had surgery on it in 92. Well yesterday morning I bent over to put my hair in a towel after I showered and the middle of my back instantly spasmed.  I could barely breathe and had great difficulty getting my hair and make up done.  Then when I bent over the sink to brush my teeth, I threw out my low back.  After all that I stupidly went to work anyway.  I only lasted til lunch time, went to the chiropractor and came home.  I have already booked today off and I know my boss will give me grief over this but at this point I really don't care.  There isn't  a snowballs chance in hell I could sit at a desk all day.  I'm sure my phone will be ringing all day because no one knows how to do my job.  Anyway I'm feeling a bit guilty because it is a bad time of year to be off work, but at the same time, I need to take care of me.  

Still having wine pretty much daily but I'm also still in control.  I am striving for abstinence and who knows....maybe if I'm off work for any length of time, I'll be able to achieve it because the stress level will be dramatically reduced. 

I hope everyone is doing great.  Welcome Katiebee.....I read your posts, we are all here to support you in your goals.  

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