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13 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Sweets, It's great that your wife is so open-minded and willing to learn.  We (the person with depression or mental illness) have to remember that there is the that dern human element that gets in the way sometimes of them handling things appropriately or to our advantage and our responding appropriately.  I think communications is 100% for each person and as I expressed in an earlier post, is key to making sure that you both get what you need.  I don't remember if I said it or not.  But a therapist once told me that it is not realistic to think a partner can meet your needs if you don't vocalize them.  Make sure you are vocalizing your needs and that she vocalizing hers as well.  Once you know what those needs are - then I think it takes a concerted effort to pull it together to meet each others needs in terms of extent, timing and what our limitations are.  I think it's fair to say that even though your wife doens't have depression that she is going to have limitations as to what she can do.  

Again, I think you are blessed/fortunate to have a wife willing to help whenever she can!
13 years ago 0 5 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
My wife wants to help out wherever she can.  She currently attends a support group for family and friends of those with with depression.  We have also done some reading together on depression.  Always open to new opportunities to learn and grow as well.

-sweets
13 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I think you have a plan and can hopefully maintain it.  What part is she willing to do to help the situation?  The reason I ask is there's lots of information out there for families of people with depression and how to cope with US!  I know it was useful to my adult child.  He sought out the information and wanted to understand and also to know how to conduct himself.  He's not assuming responsibility for my depression but assuming responsibility for understanding how the depression effects me and effects him.  How he can help via communication, understanding, patience, etc.  Some information is available through NAMI, National Alliance for the Mentally Ill and also through the Department of Health. (btw, I live in the US)  I don't know how to change the country on my profile.  
Let us know how things are going with your plan.  

13 years ago 0 5 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Goofy

Thanks for sharing your experiences in a close relationship.  I can relate to that idea of harboring ill feelings toward each other.  I definitely do that as we spend time together and interact.  I think I interpret her actions or non-verbals too often in a negative way, assuming she is mad or frustrated at me or my depression.  I have found challenging my thoughts through the "Thought Records" helpful.  In cases with my wife, my distortions are often personalization or catastrophic thinking.

Your approach to writing down how you feel before talking about it sounds like it could be helpful, especially in the intense situations where emotions are strong.

I have discovered that depression doesn't necessarily add conflict to a marriage, but it does have a tendency to intensify conflicts and it is good to nip that distorted thinking in the butt sooner rather than later.  And I think I am learning to be more aware of that.

Sweets


 

13 years ago 0 1044 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
sweets,
It is a good discussion topic but I come from a different angle.  My depression started in 04.  I was single.  I stayed that way and you as a person with depression can understand why.  I was lacking in motivation to get out of bed needless to say to pursue anything else.  I'd had to retire from my employment and I wasn't "able" to enter into a relationship.  When I finally did get out slowly but surely I met this man (2009) and we were attracted to each other, after a few dates, we decided to step things up a notch.  I told him about my depression, my daily struggles, my self-esteem issues, my vulnerabilities as a whole.  I asked him if we decided to continue on that we would openly communicate and he assured me I could and should tell him how I am feeling. At first I thought what have I gotten myself into.  I can't even participate in my own life actively (the way I did pre-depression) and here I am trying to have a relationship.  I said this to him and he was like whoa, you must be having a hard time.  There is no reason you can't be in a relationship with me and have Major Depression.  I think I got lucky.
There have been a couple of times when communication has been shut down.  But I have to agree with Ashley that communication is the key.  
The times we did shut down (I went to my corner and he went to his) both harboring ill feelings, etc.  It blew up.  I talked to my therapist about it.  He suggested we discuss how we felt about that situation via e-mail, then sit down and discuss the issues face to face that resulted in that "shut down".  Neither of us could use "you" statements.  
In other words, I had to say things like, I felt hurt when this happened.  I felt confused when that happened, etc.  And he had to do the same thing even though his feelings and or the event was maybe not the same that led to my feelings.  We did the exercise the therapist suggested - the e-mail and then face-to-face.  It really helped and we are more readily able to discuss things as they occur and not wait until it gets to where we both retreat.  I think putting it in writing was painstaking to make sure I didn't say things like "when you did this, it made me mad".  In stead "I said I felt angry because it sounded as if you were dismissing my opinion".  We both agreed up front we didn't want a long term relationship and here we are after almost two years not discussing our feelings, but I'm not ready to go there and say things, make a commitment emotionally, the most I do is say "I miss you".  He reciprocates.  IF he asked me to express how I feel, I'd have to practice, just as I did in writing my feelings about our blow ups or when we fail to communicate.
I don't know this is all going to show up in one post.  Please feel free to ask me questions about this technique.  It definitely helped our ability to communicate and btw, we were allowed to have notes when we discussed it face-to-face. Especially me, since my depression effects my memory.
I sure hope you find techniques that work for you.  And remember don't blame each other.  We each have to assume responsibility for our own part of the relationship, failure to communicate and meeting each others needs.

I don't know if this makes any sense or not.  I know writing it down helped us both when open communication failed, then having to go over the same thing verbally face-to-face and state how we feel has helped us more easily express how we feel.  We also recognize early when there is a break down in communication and it doesn't get that far.  


13 years ago 0 11218 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
This is a great discussion topic.  I am sure many individuals have similar struggles as you do.
 
Be sure you read the auxiliary sections on  relationships and resolving disputes.  These sessions will give you a base for discussion. 
 
It's communicating.  Both of you should be open about what you feel and what you are going through.  Remember you two are a team.  Manage this depression as a team.  What could you wife do to help you? What could you do to help your wife.  How would doing the program together help? What other depression managing activities could you two do together?
 
Members, please share your thoughts and experiences.
 

 


Ashley, Health Educator
13 years ago 0 5 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Greetings,
Dealing with Depression within the dynamics of Marriage can be an interesting thing.  An important factor in dealing with depression is having good supports and a supportive partner is huge in this process.  On the other hand, depression takes its toll on the spouse of the person depressed as well.  
I have been married for almost 3 years.  My depression has been fairly intense for the past 7 months and I have been off work for the past 2 months because of the depression.  My wife has always been supportive and desiring to help in any way she can. Recently she has really struggled to feel the connection between us as well as feeling more and more that she needs her family. She has broke down crying a number of times because of these struggles.  I feel very limited in my ability to console her as I feel a lack of capacity to do so.  I have felt guilty lately that I am the reason for her struggle.  I also feel some anger that she not able to be stronger for me during this time.

So some questions for discussion could be, What are your experiences with depression and marriage or within an intimate committed relationship?  What are strategies that have helped you?

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