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9 years ago 0 11212 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Everyone!
 
Davit,  
 
As you know I am not a doctor and if I was, I most certainly could not diagnose your friend through you over the computer but I couldn't help but think that your friends symptoms sounds a bit like ADHD or ADD. Adult ADD is actually quite common mental health concern and it tends to be under diagnosed in adults. They predict as little as 20% of adults with ADHD get a diagnosis and fewer seek treatment. Conservative estimates say that 5% or adults have ADHD but now they are saying this number can be much higher. If she does have ADHD CBT techniques alone will not stop her worrying.
 
ADD is more common in adults as most adults lose the Hyperactive part or learn to control it. This makes ADHD in adults so difficult to pin point. It is especially difficult to pin point in adult women as symptoms can be a bit different. Unmanaged ADD can have a huge impact on a person's life. It might be helpful for her to do a bit of research on the symptoms. It sounds like she is hyperfocusing on the computer which is common with ADD. It also sounds like she is leaving many tasks which is also common with unmanaged ADD. 
 
Have a look at this links and let me know what you think:
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/adhd_add_adult_symptoms.htm
http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/10-symptoms-adult-adhd
 
Ashley, Health Educator
9 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I am concerned about a lot of things, but this is different from worry. With concern you make a decision or put it on the back burner for future consideration. With worry you make a number of decisions but accept none out of fear that they are wrong. So in this way the fear is the learned condition and worry is the symptom. Using logic and being assertive are the solutions to the fear. This fear of making a mistake is the root behind my friends worry, and she worries a lot. Some people worry a lot even though they know it does no good because they are so afraid of making the wrong decision. But with worry you will never be able to make the right decision because you have too many choices that could be wrong and most of them may well be wrong. Concern is looking at the choices and discarding for ever the ones that are definitely wrong.

Davit
9 years ago 0 2508 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Sometimes I think worry is a learned behavior and if so then we should be able to get a handle on it..
Of course some situations and worries are valid and worth being concerned about and need considerable thought especially when making life changing decisions..

Just my two cent worth..because I do worry about some things sometimes..I think most people do..
We are only human aren't we?
 
Red..
 
 
 
9 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Moving van showed up at 4:30 in the morning but we never started till 7:30. It took four guys three hours to unload. It took up a space 12 feet by 24 feet and 7 feet high in the garage. With some stuff in the house. You couldn't have crammed a mouse in the van with the stuff. Cheaper than Uhaul too. Now comes the fun part.

But not today and not tomorrow. Tomorrow we go to Jasper to get our boat trailer. 

Guess what, we have mosquitoes. We have mosquitoes in the house now.

It was beautiful while they unloaded but is overcast now and may rain. Who cares, the garage door is closed. And this is just stuff, She sold most of the furniture and the appliances.  So it was done without worry and will be unpacked without worry. Maybe a heart attack or two but definitely no worry.

Davit
9 years ago 0 6252 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Tomorrow we have a moving van coming. I'm concerned enough to be ready at 8:30 even though he said nine, but I won't worry that he will be earlier or later, he will be here when he is. The crew I hired is prepared to be here at nine. Worry won't change that. Besides they are supposed to unload, the crew is just incase there are problems. There is always a possibility of problems. This is a legitimate concern, not a worry. Am I going to research this on the internet, not a chance. I'm going to go to sleep thinking about coffee in the morning not unloading a truck. And it will probably rain and I don't give a damn. I'd rather be planting my ridiculously large garden but that will have to wait. Might have to use some organic fertilizer to make up for a late planting, but that too is a concern with a solution, not a worry without one. Worry wastes so much time you can never get back. So I planted till dark again tonight. Doesn't matter if I'm tired tomorrow, I'm not unloading. I might have to shuttle with the tractor if for some reason he can't get in the driveway. But that too is a concern, not a worry, I'm prepared even though it will be no fun if it is raining.

I still don't understand what drives people to worry, I only know they do. I wonder if it is a learned condition.

Davit.
9 years ago 0 4027 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
My life seems similar to your friend's life. It's come to a point however, that I worry less. Things are mundane though, this week, after a week of joining an activity(an online course, which is a breakthrough for me). I do laundry, prep meals, and life seems much of a chore, but the summer is on the horizon, so things seem more bearable than the harsh winter. I’m isolated, and feel my loneliness. I have a lot of those unfinished projects, and a lot of clutter, but I’m told the clutter is because of anxiety, not a OCD issue. I've had a lot of help though, and I wonder if that is starting to take hold too. As for my wasteful activities, I've measured them, and slowly reduced the negative stuff. Worry is part of the panic cycle, and is the thought stream. The same tactics for breaking that cycle could help, with some tailoring by a professional.
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Concern is one thing but worry is another. Chronic worry is very debilitating. I know some one that worries about everything to the point she gets tired and gets nothing done. I'm trying to understand it because I have never done that. Also she can spend days on the computer looking for a solution for something that doesn't need to be done right now or often as not, not at all. Wasted time. And it snowballs. She will start something and then go to the computer instead of finishing it. And then she will start something else before finishing the other thing. Her house is cluttered with unfinished projects. A mop and pail here, a vacuum cleaner there, dishes in the sink and groceries not put away. In the middle of this are a few coffee cups and that damn computer. Oh and boxes of stuff she has no idea what is in them.  Her solution is to sleep since all this computer stuff is frustrating and tiring. It will get done tomorrow yet tomorrow never comes. No time sense and no priority. Of course all this getting behind breeds anxiety for which there are pills that make her sleep more.
Now since I have never done this I don't know what the answer is. All I know is that it seems to have a lot of control of her and she is losing a lot of life. And the damn pills don't help. 
I am so glad I don't do this. And I'm not, I'm having a cup of teas as the bread rises. My day won't end by going to bed in the afternoon. It will end outside when it gets dark and inside when I'm too tired to do any thing else. It ain't all work either. I can plant onions and look around. I can water and watch the Geese. I can get things done and not worry yet I can still have concerns, they just don't own me. 

So I wonder if anyone has found themselves in this cycle and managed to break it. Is there hope for her or should I just not care.

Davit

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