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11 years ago 0 169 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thanks Davit. I always worry myself that there's something else wrong with me but I get real good days and when I'm busy I don't have anxiety or other issues. I worry myself too much about anxiety, and health and just not feeling okay..

I will try to accept things as they come and don't label it just let them be for now 
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For anyone who like me loses long posts, what has worked for me and worked again this time is to log in again and back up till I find the post I wanr and repost it.

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Cara

Did this disagreement trigger memory of other disagreements? When it does this you don't want to block them because they are associated memories and you don't want to leave them in memory as negatives. Especially if you lost. Or what happens most often is you are right but can't win. If this happens over and over you will build a core belief that this is what is supposed to happen. Which although true is disturbing enough to cause anxiety. Acceptance is the answer here if there is nothing you can do. Accept you can do nothing about it so it is not important. "it is not important" (even though it is) is the counter core belief that you want to bury the negative one with.
Often losing or having something crappy happen could be shrugged off if it wasn't for the fact it opens other similar memories. Take for instance my falling down the stairs. It happened and I'm sore and I can't change that fact. What brings on the antsy feeling is thinking about associated things. Like, my plans are on hold (so what)  Last time I did this I fell head first in a laundry basket (so what) Etc. ,etc. .But the bad one is the thought I could have broke something or when will it happen again. A whole handful of negative thoughts that grew out of one silly accident. And yes it is bothering me, but not as bad as it once would have. Life isn't hopeless, just that these things happen and will happen again. I have a choice here, I can accept that I didn't do it on purpose and get on with life or I can think my life sucks. Well it doe's suck, but it is all I have so I'll find a way to enjoy it as best as I can including telling all those negative thoughts to piss off and putting something positive in their place. A bit hard to do on an over cast day like today. (associated negative memories)
The only thing you need to let go of is that you have no control over other people so anything you can not change should have no influence or control of you. The other thing you want to let go of is that you got sucked into the disagreement in the first place. Were you right? Was there a chance of proving it? Yes, no?  Yes would have been positive, no would have opened the negative stores.
Maybe you are ready for thought exposure. If anger is working you can probably do this. You said when the thoughts are not there, I know what you mean but actually you mean when they are not conscious because they are obviously in memory right. So if you think you are ready to do the exposure you look at each one of these feelings and thoughts and one at a time categorize them as realistic or not. Don't be surprised if some negative ones belong. Your just separating the real from the not real first to get rid of confusion. For me,"I don't like my brother" is negative but real and okay because there is just cause. After this you decide what you can do with the negatives to bury them. For some it will be as simple as using the "not important" core belief. Some you will have to go back a long ways to change the root. And some exposure is going to cause pain and this is part of closure, part of acceptance.

Can anxiety turn into some worse mental disease? No, not unless it is already there. Anxiety and panic are conditions that turn into disorders but not diseases. Bipolar and Schizophrenia are mental diseases with a chemical condition and controlled with medication, CBT is used to handle the anxiety side effect of having them. 
Eating disorders, OCD and Hypochondria are all disorders and not diseases. They are all treatable when necessary but harder because of core attachments and the belief they are normal. 
You recognize your anxiety doesn't belong there. No worries for you.

How do you bury it good. By convincing yourself you are doing the right thing. By catching yourself doing the wrong thing. By diligence and by a contradiction here, by allowing yourself enough slack to have the odd bad day without freaking out. Try to end every day positive. Try to end every conflict positive.Take the time to question the negative when it happens rather than avoid it. In time it becomes automatic and soon subconscious so you can get on with more important things.

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11 years ago 0 169 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thanks Davit. I can always count on you. 

It's there, I can feel it there but I'm trying my very best to keep it away... 

I had a bad disagreement with a family member, I guess that's what triggered it, the stress of this. 
I thought I buried it deep enough but I was wrong...

I use your trick of getting angry "oh crap your here again, now go away !"... I bring it back though, I search for the feelings and thoughts when they're not there. Should I stop this? Should I start to let it go?????? 

Does anxiety cause other problems mentally or is just panic attacks that can happen? 

How so I bury it good like you? How does it erase all together? 
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Cara

In a way the answer is yes for most of us. Some of us cycle quite consistently and regular. Some one I know does this every 6 weeks and it lasts three days and passes. Unfortunately she let the cycling effect her thinking and everything got a negative spin.
Remember I said anything in memory stays there, all you can do is bury it. Remember too that for every quest the mind picks from a number of choices. Remember it is important to always use a positive choice. Survival skills will over ride this when necessary. But then you have to go back to positive. 
The mind never rests, it is always sifting the past and changing how you look at things. It is so we keep learning and don't get stale. When all is going okay we forget to keep thinking positive. We forget to keep adding positives to memory and this random searching the mind starts accessing those old negative thoughts that aren't buried good enough any more because all was well and they didn't need to be. But they do. every day till it becomes automatic.
Watch out for little unnoticed negatives creeping into your life and change them right away before they can build up and become associated. It is these little traumas that are the problem because when your mind looks for an answer it will look at these also for a solution, and well if they are negative you get an antsy feeling because they too are not the answer you want.
What set this off? What took you from no anxiety to anxiety? What in the past was related to this? Anything even remotely related can be the associated memory that triggered this seeming new anxiety when it is only drawing on an existing one that isn't buried good enough.
There is nothing wrong with you, you just let some sadness bring up subconscious memories. Since it is often impossible to find the trigger we can only do maintenance in the form of piling on the positive thoughts. Over time it gets easier and for those like me that cycle it gets less noticeable.

You are still doing very good for such a short period of time. At some point in the future you will have all of this buried so well you will wonder if it even happened. And if you do think about it it won't bother you because you will just automatically bury it in positive thought.

Davit
11 years ago 0 169 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
So I'm having a set back after many months of no anxiety. I am starting to feel the dread and sadness again and going crazy. I guess this is where all my lessons will come in place. I'm trying hard to use all the things I've learnt to keep the anxiety away again. It's hard bcoz I don't want to be where I was ...

Anyone can help with this? Will we always have these challenges an it's how we react to them
Is what matters? 

Is how we react the key to overcoming these for good? Bcoz I find that when I get them again, I dwell and get sad that it's happening again... We have to start over....

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