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13 years ago 0 579 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Ka2shka,
 
I've been around this site a long time .  I can't tell you how many successful quitters there are who had a struggle in the beginning.  My problems were low moods, anger....you know the type of thing.   Everyone of us will tell you that this is worth the journey, and how much happier we are that we kept going.
 
It will get better, we promise.
 
Lizzie

My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 4/23/2003
Smoke-Free Days: 2697
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 40,455
Amount Saved: �10,113.75
Life Gained:
Days: 294 Hrs: 5 Mins: 49 Seconds: 35

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    Days: 783 Hours: 12

    Minutes: 12 Seconds: 53

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13 years ago 0 16 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I am still hanging on.
thks for asking and checking

My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 7/24/2010
Smoke-Free Days: 48
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 960
Amount Saved: $249.60
Life Gained:
Days: 5 Hrs: 6 Mins: 6 Seconds: 24

13 years ago 0 816 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
 Hello ka2shka  How are you now ? In regard to anger..... It seems to me that nothing good has ever come out of anger or ever will. The only two lasting effects are regret and remorse for acting on it which can last a lifetime. In retrospect it seems like a total waste of time and energy. breather
My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 11/11/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 663
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 33,150
Amount Saved: $15,912.00
Life Gained:
Days: 121 Hrs: 0 Mins: 49 Seconds: 38

13 years ago 0 16 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Everyone,
 
Thank you for your support and great insights. I took a few days off ( out of town) to breathe! I felt and feel better for now.
Cristina, Lainey, Breather - Thank you so much. It helps to know I am not alone on this journey and you listen.
Jason - You advise is invaluable. I read and really listened and decided I have some work to do. I really appreciate you opening my eyes to some of the behavior I keep repeating.
I will keep you posted an Breather - I will report a little more regarding the chantix pros and cons.

My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 7/24/2010
Smoke-Free Days: 41
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 820
Amount Saved: $213.20
Life Gained:
Days: 4 Hrs: 11 Mins: 41 Seconds: 18

13 years ago 0 3875 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Awesome advice here Ka2chka! Let me tell you, the anger and irritability are all a part of quitting, but it does get better. If you went through the program you may have seen some breathing exercises. They really help. As does a quit kit, with tools like gum, candy, cold water, going for a walk, an inspiring post, etc etc. You get the picture. Stressful times always take us by surprise, so be prepared for it to happen.
I always told myself that "Smoking is NOT and option, so I have to do something else" It helped me switch my focus. And sometimes, you just may need to punch a pillow and blow some of the anger off that way, as long as you don't punch your hubby out (as much as you'd like to at times).
Also changing your routine helps, if its bad in the morning, rearrange your schedule a bit. It wakes up the brain and helps alot! Even rearranging the furniture a bit so that your not sitting in the same spot you smoked - those kinds of changes really help! You WILL get through this! Hang in there!
 

My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 3/5/2007
Smoke-Free Days: 1276
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 31,900
Amount Saved: $13,461.80
Life Gained:
Days: 175 Hrs: 18 Mins: 4 Seconds: 25

13 years ago 0 816 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
cristinas and Jason. These are the most thoughtful posts I've seen in a long time and should be accessable. ka2chka , how are you now ? chantix quitters your feedback is required. breather
My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 11/11/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 658
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 32,900
Amount Saved: $15,792.00
Life Gained:
Days: 120 Hrs: 0 Mins: 4 Seconds: 9

13 years ago 0 223 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Ka2chka,
 
Breather and Christina offers great advice. And, as Christina said, come here often when craving hit.

With regards with being annoyed and angry.  People in recovery do have ups and downs, and sometimes more downs than ups unless they adopt new ways of coping, none of which happen overnight.  We keep saying that quitting is a process. Anger may play an unexpected role for you in this process, and better coping skills need to be developed to deal with this also.  

When many smokers quit, they go through changes that require some unmasking.  Take anger, for instance:  As nicotine addicts, we might have swallowed our anger, or lit up/chewed rather than make a scene when something really irked us.  It might have been easier and less stressful than engaging in confrontation about some problem.  I'm confident that most smokers who were "put in their place" can remember exhaling the smoke slowly at some time or other to decompress.  They puffed or chewed away for dear life rather than say their piece and end up getting fired from a much-needed job, to offer one example, or be in an in-laws bad book forever, to name another.  

In such anger, a nicotine fix became the crutch, the comforter and the savior of sorts, and quite a coping mechanism!  (Or so we thought anyway.)  Get my drift?  

With the giving up (and loss from our lives) of that lifelong 'all-round friend' the cigarette, we literally go through mourning with all its stages, including the stage of sadness and anger.  Quitting is a major loss, both physically and psychologically, and in addiction, a quitter will naturally mourn that loss for a little while, until they freely accept the quit and adopt it, just letting go of smoking or chewing.  

But besides that mourning, there are also things that can naturally trigger an angry response in a quitter:  For instance, typical little things such as finding an empty roll on the toilet paper dispenser, discovering someone's dirty laundry on the floor, coming across dirty dishes in another part of the house, etc., all could NOW send a quitter into that angry zone.  When you smoked you might have lit up and maybe said nothing in those situations, maybe even allowed yourself a sigh of exasperation.  Now, however, it could send you in a real tailspin.  It's demoralizing if you turn into an ogre and don't know how to deal with it.

If so, realize that in this situation, you are resorting to anger in response to a small trigger.  You are coping with an irritant by getting angry.  Something isn't right here, correct?

Without a nicotine fix, the next irritant to come along might be added to the mental stack of current irritants, until the quitter either learns to deal with them in a new way, or has an outburst.  

Dysfunctional anger management?  Inadequate communication habits? Quitting is a learning process. In smoking days, some of the time we lit up to cope, and that particular coping avenue is gone now. We have to find other ways.

The same irritants exist as before, but upon quitting, the coping mechanism of old is not there.  Some quitters will lash out for a while until they learn what is happening to them and how to deal with it.  While they are trying desperately to stay quit and focus their attention on dealing with cravings, they may not be aware right away of some of the other things happening to them.

Sudden anger is unpleasant and scary for the quitter, not to mention your loved ones, friends and co-workers.  Quitters and family alike feel helpless for a little while, amazed (and maybe fearful) at what is happening, at how easy anger rises.  It can take a couple of weeks and maybe one memorable outburst to really alert you to stop and take an inventory of sorts.  As soon as you can, develop adequate strategies.  It may take a while to get everything right, but everyone has to begin somewhere.  Do not resort to smoking or chewing!  There are ways to deal with it.

Gaining control over nicotine addiction involves recovery, which in turn involves self-discovery and self-appreciation, and it is a process of necessary change on many fronts, including how we deal with many things.  

A quitter who is angry may realize he/she is stressed to begin with.  He should try to reduce his stress level, to reduce the bigger things that normally would not make someone feel really angry about an empty paper dispenser. (Maybe annoyed, but angry?)  

Accepting our own limitations and the limitations of others is part of the discovery to be made.  We've actually begun.  We understand smokers, we now have a soft spot for them, but don't want to be in their shoes any more, and may dislike being near them.  We don't want to condemn them.  After all we were once really in their shoes.

Some strategies:  

Take regular, planned timeouts for yourself.  Be realistic and honest: How often did you take a break to light up before?  20, 30 times a day?  More? For 5 or 10 minutes? That inner regular need for a break to change your thoughts or environment and decompress at regular intervals should not be abandoned altogether, now should it?  Pay close attention to this old existing need.  Substitute a breathing exercise or something relaxing and self-loving.  Set an alarm clock if you need reminding and keep resetting it. Listen to some music perhaps too, or just pick a form of *regular distraction and relaxation*, and do it for a couple of minutes each time.  If you take regular 'non-smoking decompression breaks, you may be pleasantly surprised at the results.

Practice relaxation techniques and adopt some into your routine.  Successful people really do.  Here is a simple breathing exercise when you feel tense:  With shoulders back and tummy in, inhale deeply for a slow count of five, exhale for a slow count of five.  Do five of these at a time. (You can do this at your computer too)

Each day, reflect on, and study your stress levels.  Try to reduce the causes of other high stress in your life if you can, by altering the cause. Look at the cause-s.  Much of it may be self-imposed.  
* Consider looking for another job, in another line of work, if necessary.  

* Learn to say no to the impositions of others.  You are presently enrolled in a Quitting Course. (If you had to pay for a quitting program, would you not find a way to prioritize it above the demands of other people?)

* Don’t waste precious energy in criticism of yourself and others. Adopt a Live and Let Live attitude. Focus on your happiness. Anger releases bad hormones into your body.  Work on the opposite.  
* Put things in perspective.  

Value yourself more.  Believe that you are really something!  Quitting is not for sissies.  You may not have arrived yet, but you've left the starting gate.  We do appreciate what you're going through.  Start pampering and loving yourself, now!  Talk positive self-talk to yourself. Some people are too self-critical.  Ease up.  No one is perfect.

The Canadian Institute of Stress believes that by doing something satisfying or pleasurable, we can take the edge off.  This is so important!  (Ahem, ever hear of making a reward plan?)  The reason is that when we are experiencing enjoyment or pleasure, our body is pumping out less adrenalin.  If you haven't made that reward plan, better late than never, do it now!  (And then when you post your stats, share your rewards in order to inspire others to add to their plan too.)

Until you can control this anger, (what you say, the way you say it, how you react) it's better to take a time out than lose a friend or alienate a loved one.  Isolate yourself in the bedroom or washroom until you feel you can control yourself.  

Get adequate sleep and rest.  Indulge in an afternoon or evening nap.  There's nothing like fatigue to make us feel edgy to begin with.  In recovery, we need more rest, as every organ in the body is going through some pretty serious adjusting and withdrawal over a few months.

Anger can be managed.  Study up on anger management:  Get a book from the library, search the Internet, or consider getting professional help.  

Improve communication skills.  Study up on this too. Get a book from the library.  They give classes in this. Lots of fun. Really!

If you are a quitter going through this, please explain to your family and friends that this will pass as you recover.  Here's to you!

A little note:  If you cannot improve on the sadness and anger, I urge you to discuss this with your physician.  The problem may be related to something else and your physician can help you through this.

Hope that helps Ka2shka.
 
 

Jason, Bilingual Health Educator
13 years ago 0 251 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
First of all, congratulations on those 37 days. You made it through the first month and that is a huge achievement. Now, to answer your question... It will get easier. But at times, you will still feel those strong urges. They will pass, as you know. But they will come back. And yes, the fog that seems to encompass your brains... I remember that feeling too. It is going to fade away as well... I don't know how you feel about all this, but when I started this journey, I really hoped that there are certain time lines that my quit will follow: cravings gone in x days, sleep problems and foggy brains in x days... Come to discover that, even though the "symptoms" are the same for majority of us, the time line is different. So, from what I know, please learn to live with the rollercoaster of emotions, problems and inconveniences. There is light at the end of this tunnel. I am getting now to the point where I can see it (at times). And the rewards are way beyond the sufferings.
Praise yourself everyday for what you are achieving. And anytime you feel like venting/kicking/screaming... come on over. There will alway be someone here understanding what you are going through.
Keep the quit
Cristina

My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 10/5/2009
Smoke-Free Days: 329
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 11,515
Amount Saved: $1,496.95
Life Gained:
Days: 31 Hrs: 6 Mins: 5 Seconds: 0

13 years ago 0 16 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0

Posting to see if it shows my smoke-free time!


My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 7/24/2010
Smoke-Free Days: 37
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 740
Amount Saved: $192.40
Life Gained:
Days: 4 Hrs: 1 Mins: 35 Seconds: 13

13 years ago 0 816 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
 Good morning ka2shka  You're awake early this morning. Not sure how long you have stopped smoking but if it's longer than 3 days the nicotine is out of your system by now. Realize that the mind needs to rethink this whole smoking affair. It's understandable how we can be irritable and angry at times. I haven't used chantix before so other members will be along to help you on that. Be sure to have ice water handy for the craves and be sure to reward yourself for not smoking. Starting smoking again isn't the answer. If you go outside go with the intention of breathing some fresh air. Tell yourself that no matter what happens I won't smoke today. If you're tired sleep , hungry eat , lonely don't be by yourself , and although difficult keep the anger in check. Read and post here. You're the most important person here. breather
My Mileage:

My Quit Date: 11/11/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 657
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 32,850
Amount Saved: $15,768.00
Life Gained:
Days: 119 Hrs: 19 Mins: 44 Seconds: 46


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