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Goofy:
 
Thanks for sharing so frankly. I feel humbled - I have never been as low as you were, always been able to function (apart from a year ago, when I was signed off work for two weeks because I was in such a state). I feel like a fraud for being here and writing endless reams of words.
 
I remember being less unhappy than I am now. Ten, fifteen years ago when the kids were young, life felt fresh again for a while, and I was pretending to be a Buddhist. Can't really remember how that felt though. And I've had discontent and dissatisfaction with myself since my teenage years.
 
I've always had this social phobia which has blighted my life and prevented me from fulfilling my potential, and I have never been at peace with that. But always viewed it as an immovable part of me, that could never be changed unless I 'grew out of it' which of course I never have.
 
 

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Pete, I was trucking along through life and at 42 I ran into a brick wall called depression.  The wall came tumbling down on top of me and I didn't have the strength, the motivation nor the wherewithall to move even a single brick.  As a result of the depression (there is a higher correlation of a number of illness in people with depression than in the general population) I started to develop other health issues.  I only left my bed and my house for those dr. appts.  I retired from a wonderful paying job utilizing my education and went to bed.  I was seeing a psychiatrist, the day I hit the brick wall, I called a doctor I'd seen for 28 years and he got me in that day and referred me to the pdoc. 
I don't want to sound like a braggard or vain or full of myself.  But I was making very good money for the geographical erea in which I live, I loved my job, I own my own home, have a dog, a kid that had just graduated from law school and passed the bar.  I was working on my doctoral degree, teaching classes, studying statistics, working toward the 1st three chtrs of my dissertation.  (there were too very stressful events going on in my life that I think contributed to the onset of my depression but that's not the point here).  Life was great.  I was confident, respected in my profession, involved in civic organizations, served on boards and held offices and volunteered. 
When the bricks came tumbling down all those "good" feelings I had about me disolved into dust and were swept away by the wind.   I had not one ioto of self-confidence, self-worth, self-esteem or self-efficacy.  I was embarassed, I felt ugly, I couldn't stand to be around people, I didn't/couldn't handle the financial aspects of my life, my home, my anything.  My mom drove me to and from dr. appts and became my power of attorney to help me.  After mom died, my son took over as POA.  Slowly but surely over time, I've worked on "what I've lost".  I can remember a time when I wasn't depressed, I mourn that person, those activities, etc. 
Do you remember a time when you weren't depressed and how you felt????  Lost, do you?
mmgsc, do you?  I know the onset of depression knows no age boundaries.  I am just curious, so if you don't want to answer it's okay.
You know I know my family will miss me if I am not here.  I think it is important to recognize the value we have in the lives of our children, our parents, our siblings and cousins, et al.  I know I also have a couple of people I've been friends with for over 30 years -they'd miss me when I'm gone.  And we don't talk that often.
 
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Hi mmgsc
 
Sounds to me like the things you do in order to 'buy' friendship - helping out, baking cookies - just show what a good, considerate person you are. Working relationships are not usually 'deep' friendships, are they? Being nice to the people you work with is a good way to be, a good thing to do.
 
You feel you have no value to others, nobody would notice if you were gone. I recognise that feeling, and I know how annoying it can be when a stranger tells you it's not so, and gives you nice, tidy rational reasons for that. So I'll risk annoying you. Later on in your post you say your family "...will say I'm fine, nice, smart, etc...". Sounds to me like they'd miss you if you weren't around.
 
I agree, I don't like doing lists. Can't make my mind work like that and I'm so much better at negatives than positives too.
 
If it's the mornings when you are chatty, please keep posting in the mornings.
 
Take care
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Hi Pete,
 
I have not gone into such depth yet with my therapist on why my self worth is so low. We use self worth rather than self esteem. It may be just semantics, but I do get upset when the bully at work puts me down, or when a coworker took advantage of me. Therefore, I must feel some self esteem, or I would just 'know' I deserved to be treated like this.
 
But I don't feel I have any value to others. Again, it's just wordplay, but that's how I feel. Nobody needs me, nobody wants me, nobody would really notice if I were gone. I go out of my way to 'buy' people's 'friendship', even though I know it's just a shallow relationship. I jump to help anytime I hear a need, even (or especially) when I have no responsibility to that task or that department. I actually bake cookies and send them to people in the company I've never met but deal with regularly. I'm sure most people think that is weird, but then they are nicer to me.
 
So that's where I am. I agree with the personal responsibility - there was nothing outstanding about my childhood or formative years. I've always been quiet and introverted.  I have a bully at work, but that didn't start things, it just helped me stay here. I really cannot make a list as suggested, because the 'positives' that I get are unreliable. Of course my family will say I'm fine, nice, smart, etc. Of course the distant coworkers think I am helpful, sweet, etc. I've never met most of them, I send them cookies and I answer my phone (which is a challenge in my department). List of 'Negatives' would just push me over the edge again.
 
The fact is that people who know me well tend to back away the more they get to know me. People have enough problems without a needy person trying to fake a friendship.
 
Sorry, I get 'chatty' in the mornings. By evenings I'll be so down I really don't communicate.
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I've just reread my last post and it's incredible, and rather funny in a deadpan kind of way, that I will expend much mental energy, and jump through all sorts of hoops, so that I can maintain my levels of self-criticism, self-judgement, low self-esteem...........it's as if I'm somehow frightened of losing all that, as if it is in a perverse way comforting.
 
If only I could put the same commitment into feeling good about myself.............
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I think this is possibly relevant to the discussion, and the issues of personal responsibility and self-esteem. Or perhaps I'm gabbling......
 
I'm working with my therapist on my personal values. On the principle that I feel that I've failed, that I'm worthless, and that I constantly criticise and judge myself, it follows that I am somehow, or perceive myself to be, falling short of the values and standards I set myself. It's been an interesting exercise, first just to sit down and look into myself and determine what are the values I feel I should live by/live up to and then how I take those values into my life.
 
I'm not going to list what I came up with here, but my point is this: these values have come from my upbringing and culture, from the influence of countless other people and the way I perceive the world around me, from the decisions I have made. They are fairly deeply ingrained in me by now, at the age of 48. When I do, or don't do, something that is not in accord with my personal values that is my choice, surely. And consequently I must bear responsibility and blame, if there is to be blame, for that.
 
None of my personal values are particularly dysfunctional or odd or immoral. What troubles me is my inability to hold to those values. I call that weakness, I call that wrongdoing. And I can't see that as anything but my own fault. Weak is weak, wrong is wrong, selfish is selfish. I can't dress those things up and deceive myself and say 'I'm strong, I'm good, I'm generous and loving...' when I know in my heart that I am none of those things.
 
Any sense in this? Hard to put adequately into words. Anyone else working with these things too?
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Lost, I wanted to mention that I understand the seemingly conflicting thing you referred to. 
Taking personal responsibility for things we say and do.  However, looking for someone to blame for who we are now. 
 
I have two thoughts.  One is we are not responsible for what happens to us as children....we are responsible for how we handle it as adults (I'm working on this one).
 
Secondly, like with my example Mom telling me I'm not pretty when I cry.  I for some reason didn't cry in front of people for years and then one day I'm working on this stuff and it hits me, mom always told me I wasn't pretty when I cry, so I didn't cry in front of people.  Well, even though I'm not beautiful, I believe (not preaching nore trying to push my spirituality) God made me as I am, so I can't be too bad.  And I'm not less attractive when I cry.  What caused mom to say this to me, she was uncomfortable with expressing her emotions and also didn't know how to handle it when I expressed mine.  It was her issue re: crying not mine.  Recognizing this is not blaming her in my eyes.  It's recognizing the source of the false belief.  I'm taking responsibility for believing it, I'm recognizing I'm not responsible for her saying it.  And I gotta get rid of it. 
 
Am I making any sense here?  lol, sometimes it sounds so logical to me, then I post and I'm like what?????
 
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Rebbie, I like that.  I want to get rid of all my velcro.  Ouch!  Ouch!  Ouch!
It's a great analogy.  And a very good suggestion.  I often tend to ignore nice things people say.....I need to write them down.  And forget anything negative or process through it or figure out if it's their problem or my problem. 
I think we'd all be surprised by how many compliments we get.
Thanks for sharing!
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Very interesting Rebbie!
 
It would be great to post good thoughts in the forums to share with others, or even add them to your blog.
 
Very good idea Rebbie!
 
 

Ashley, Health Educator
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I think this has something to do with this particular thread.   I got an article from my brother last week that essentially said that bad thoughts and feelings are like velcro and good thoughts and feelings are like teflon.   The article suggested that we try to hold on to the good thoughts and feelings by grabbing them with our conscience and savoring them for a while.  Don't just let them flit by like they usually do.   Writing them down in a small journal or notebook also helps to keep the good feeling going.    I think that while the bad thoughts and feeling will still stick to us like velcro (because they invoke the strongest feelings and thoughts), by making a conscious effort to bask in the good feeling or thought for 15-20 seconds, writing it down to be remembered at a later time or attempting to make this feeling a good "memory," we can slowly recover the feel-good part of us that seems to have slipped away. 

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