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10 years ago 0 154 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thank you so much Dave for your kind words of support and encouragement,  I will take you up on your advice regarding the upcoming school year as an analogy to set goals, learn new things etc.

Thanks to you and Foxman I have plenty of reading and audio material to read and listen to for a while while I continue to gradually undergo a psychic change.  Like a caterpillar that enters its cocoon and exits a butterfly free to fly into the heavens and leave behind the dreary life of a creature dragging itself on its belly, I hope my change and that of others to be and to truly live a life of peace, joy and love seeking to help others. Since i am using the caterpillar/butterfly analogy, one thing we sometimes forget is the chaotic look of inside the cocoon (like the chaotic state of the drawer full of electronic stuff).  So it is with any transformation worth while.

Thanks again Dave and Foxman.  You guys are truly angels.
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cont'd....

Well let's look at a positive trigger. Come the first week in September the kids return to school. This is a positive time when we're mentally open to learning, setting goals, and pursuing new paths of knowledge. Consider using that to your advantage. Pick your start date, plan your calender, and enjoy the ride. Make your reading list and find an audio course. Maybe look at:
 

Lucinda Bassett's Attacking Anxiety & Depression

http://www.amazon.com/Lucinda-Bassetts-Attacking-Anxiety-Depression/dp/B000SO5IMI
 
to supplement your therapy. Make a list by asking yourself:
  •  If I could do anything what would I do?
  • What do I love to do that I'm not doing now?
  • These are the things I've always wanted to do..... Pick some and action them.

Also, pick a good audio set and start your day with positive messaging. Go for a walk, plug in your MP3 player and enjoy!

I've got news for you David. You are going to get better and there is nothing fundamentally wrong with you. You demonstrate great courage and character in what you are doing now so continue to do what you're doing and whittle away at the challenges because every time you do you cast aside the chains that hold you in place. I like Brian Tracy's saying "If it's to be it's up to me." I recommend listening to his stuff. You can check it out at:
 
http://www.briantracy.com/blog/personal-success/the-secrets-to-peak-performance/
 
I hope this helps. 
 
Best regards,
 
Dave
 
PS....Rather wordy of me! Hope it makes senses :)
 
 
10 years ago 0 1009 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi David,

First off, I want to say "Thank you!" for sharing. I read your posts when you put them up and they have given me a lot to consider. I've been thinking about your situation and I can deeply appreciate the challenge you are embracing so let me just say "Good for you!". It takes A LOT of courage and strength to take on a decision to change so "WELL DONE". Congratulations on taking your first steps in giving back to yourself a new life I know will find success and enjoy the freedom your looking for. 

We've all spent a long time getting to where we are. We didn't plan this evolve to the extent that it has, however WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO CHANGE. We are all in possession of our own supercomputer which is our brain. Through progressive training we've programmed this computer to operate in a certain way. The programs we've developed have become so highly refined that the consistent output is to consume alcohol. This can be changed. You programmed it before and you can reprogram it again. Based on the concept of neuroplasticity we can change and recover from injury or bad programming. Neuroplasticity refers to the brains natural ability to recover from injury. Injury need not be physical, it can be psychological. Unknowingly, we built so many associations and neuropathways in our mind to satisfying our basic human needs that the end result is we have established a tremendous amount of triggers that, inevitably, leads us drink. Imagine that drawer where you progressively toss your electronic stuff; headphones, cords, power supplies. After years of neglect you need those headphones and dive into that drawer. What you're faced with is a tangled mess that takes time to unravel until you get what you need. With focus and persistence you get there but it doesn't happen without effort (and a few F-bombs!) along the way.

I share this analogy because you have started that process. It's going to take time, effort, and patience David so take a deep breath, relax, and stay focused. You are exactly where you need to be based on your programming and you've elevated yourself above that by demonstrating the courage to seek professional help and begin the process of unraveling those wires. You mentioned you suffer from depression and anxiety. This is completely understandable and, I'd say based on your mindset. perfectly normal at the moment. You're taking medications to help ease yourself through this point in time and that is enough. You don't need anymore medication (alcohol). One of the characteristics we all share is that relief from change can't happen soon enough so more is better (i.e. drinking too much). We go for the Extra-Strength versions on the shelf and mixing a few together should really help! Not.

As to anxiety and boredom. Boredom breads restlessness and anxiety. That's one of the reasons I enjoyed drinking. It stimulates my imagination and allows me to sit placidly while in my mind there's a million things going on. It's a mental escape where you can be honest with yourself and have no boundaries or fear of being judged or criticized by anyone. I'm free to be whatever I want. Yet, if you really think about it, you know deep down inside what you want. If you honestly admit to yourself what that is often times that voice inside your head starts speaking back, usually in the form of a peer in your life, that says "Are you nuts! You can't do that!". And so starts the cycle of internal turmoil, pressure and anxiety, and "Bing!", welcome to "Trigger City". Through fear of success and being true to ourselves we stuff these ideas until we eventually forget about them and what we're left with is one bad-ass trigger that we've wired into our personal coping mechanisms. 

Well let's look at a positive trigger
10 years ago 0 154 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Joe and Charlie are indeed wonderful men, no doubt God's messengers serving to spread the good news...

Thanks again Foxman, I am grateful.

Have a wonderful day.
10 years ago 0 1562 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
David,
   I am glad you were able to listen to the audio and identify with what they were saying. Un-believable isn't it? Those guys 'shock and awed' me. To be honest with you, even today, I get more out of listening those workshops than sitting in meetings and listening to other people share their experience strength and hope. I extracted the doctors opinion and the chapter 'There is a solution' into a CD and give it away to newcomers at the local AA meetings. Thats my way of carrying the message. The whole workshop is at 
http://xa-speakers.org/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=13. Its an amazing journey. If you have some time, give it a try.
10 years ago 0 154 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Good morning everyone,

I have just finished listening to the three recordings found at the links provided below by Foxman.  I am thankful.  The 2 gentlemen in the recordings, Joe and Charlie, explain things about alcoholism in a way that are easy to understand...the allergy, the craving, the progressive illness etc.  As Foxman states below, they take much of their understanding from the Big Book and the chapter entitled "Doctor's Opinion" in particular, and of course from their own experiences with alcohol.
 
I feel it only appropriate, thanks to Foxman's help, to provide a link to a site which contains an electronic copy of the Big Book and other resources that others on this site might find helpful: www.12step.org/Community/html    The Big Book and other resources can be found under the drop-down menu entitled "References" at the top of the page. The site also expands on AA's Twelve Steps with text, audio and video tools.

Thanks again Foxman for your sharing.
10 years ago 0 154 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thank you Foxman for sharing and for the 3 MP3 resources which I have downloaded to listen to.
 
Please have a great evening.
 
PS: I did read the "Doctor's Opinion" chapter of the Big Book...makes a lot of sense. 
10 years ago 0 1562 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
David,
  The boredom and anxiety could be related to alcoholism. Alcoholism is not just about drinking lot of alcohol. If it is all we would need is physical detoxification. I used to stop for few days and start again because the spiritual malady (state of being restless, irritable and discontended, you could add boredom and anxiety) would kick in. It all would start with one beer. I was the person who would not store alcohol in my house. But because I was alcoholic, after I put my first drink, I would make several trip to the gas station. And the vicious cycle would begin. It was after entering the fellowship of AA, I realized I belong to a very small group of people who have lost the power of choice when it comes to drinking. The obsession keeps us going back to the 1st drink, then the phenomenon of craving makes us drink more than what we plan for and then the restless irritable discontended feeling makes our life miserable. Thank God for AA and the program, I do not have to go through that cycle ever again. I just have to follow few simple suggestions.


The above are excerpts from a workshop of the big book, specific to the Doctors Opinion. Give it a listen. It was very enlightening when I ran into them about seven years ago.

10 years ago 0 154 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Sink,

Yes, he and my family physician both know.  I take Prozac and Abilify for my depression, and I take Ativan for my anxiety.
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Hi David and thanks for sharing?
 
Does your therapist know about your drinking?  What kind of medication are you taking?  Of course you don't have to answer those if you don't want to, but I also take medication for anxiety (Effexor XR or the generic Venlafaxine).
 
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