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14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 62

Interesting reading the comments regarding this topic.

I think we need to define "slip"...is it one smoke in a weak moment? I don't know. I know of someone who quit and then smoked for two weeks, quit and then smoked for another two weeks and now is quitting again. To me this is not a "slip" but a "relapse" and in my opinion the original quit date should be changed. Otherwise, you could quit for a period of time, smoke for a couple of weeks, quit again etc still maintaining your original quit date...just doesn't seem right to me. On the other hand I am not saying those having difficulties shouldn't be given our full, continued and unconditional support no matter what. We all know, first hand, quitting is not easy and for some it is even harder especially if there are emotional problems associated with their addiction.

I myself am have been going through a very stressful time and will repeat the words of encouragement given to me by Rock...smoking does not resolve, change nor is it a solution to anything...thanks, Rock.

We must develop coping mechanisms without using smoking as a crutch. Exercise, eating properly, getting plenty of rest and being able to talk to someone all help.

Trillium

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 6/1/2009
Smoke-Free Days: 92
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 1,840
Amount Saved: $294.40
Life Gained:
Days: 12 Hrs: 7 Mins: 3 Seconds: 12

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 90

I think that this a personal decision. The nice part of this site is that everyone is welcoming and people feel comfortable opening up about their experiences...I think it should stay that way. We're all adults and are capable of making our own decisions.
My Milage:

My Quit Date: 6/19/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 439
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 5,268
Amount Saved: $1,382.85
Life Gained:
Days: 36 Hrs: 13 Mins: 37 Seconds: 37

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 377

Breather,

I don't think that most of us are candy coating our opinions for how people are resetting their stats. Since I've come on this site there have been many debates towards members slipping (which by the way is just a kinder word to express relapse). There was once a woman when I first quit on this site who slipped a couple of times and refused to reset her stats because she said she was not going to give up those days. Everyone on the whole told her that she should reset the meter. Well she ended up leaving the board very angry and I would very doubt she kept her quit. There was another woman who also did not want to reset her meter and some members did chime in for her to reset her meter. She did not do so but then slipped again and so reset her meter. The bottom line is most people who start smoking even one puff are not going to stay non smokers no matter if they decide to reset their meter or not. Now I might give an exception to someone maybe keeping their meter if they had one puff, came here to tell the truth, and then decided to throw them away and not smoke again. It's rare I admit but If someone did that and stayed quit for that time forward then I don't think it really is such a big deal whether they change the date. If that person would smoke again I would reset. I guess the point is that you either are going to be a non smoker or not. If one turns to two and so on you are a smoker. If you only smoke on weekends you are a smoker. If you only smoke at parties you are a smoker. In general most who take a puff after they have quit should reset their meter but I do think each member needs to figure that out for themselves. Finally, I'm not sure if it helps out the boards to have big arguments over what each person should do IMO.

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 6/17/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 441
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 7,938
Amount Saved: $2,778.30
Life Gained:
Days: 67 Hrs: 22 Mins: 36 Seconds: 47

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 280

from Wikipedia:

A relapse occurs when a person is affected again by a condition that affected them in the past. This could be a medical or psychological condition suck as addiction. (For example, if someone who had a problem with alcohol were to give up alcohol and then later start drinking again, this drinking might be considered a relapse. It is different from a slip or lapse in that it implies a return to previous behavious patterns, as opposed to a one-time occurence.

My opinion... a slip is a slip... pick yourself up, jump right back up on the wagon and keep trying... A relapse is giving up completely..

My Milage:

My Quit Date: 6/1/2009
Smoke-Free Days: 92
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 1,932
Amount Saved: $540.96
Life Gained:
Days: 8 Hrs: 6 Mins: 11 Seconds: 19

Quit Meter

$32,063.64

Amount Saved
Quit Meter

Days: 665 Hours: 7

Minutes: 30 Seconds: 48

Life Gained
Quit Meter

5453

Smoke Free Days
Quit Meter

114,513

Cigarettes Not Smoked

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 823

Breather,

As always, thank you for sharing your perspective on this challenging and controversial topic.

Our primary motivation as contributors to this support community, is in providing support and encouragement to one and all who have taken the important and courageous steps towards quitting smoking. Quitting is an arduous process involving a great deal of physical and mental effort. As you said, people relapse. But does this mean that they have failed?

The decision to change stats is a very personal one. There are no set rules. Each member must do what they feel is most appropriate for them. After all, relapsing certainly does not translate into lack of determination, strength or willpower - or does it?

This remains a controversial theme. Let's hear from other members about their opinion on "calling a spade a spade" when it comes to slipping during the quit. Are we truly "candy coating" the idea, or are we simply providing a platform for a relapser to feel comfortable to move on without judgement or criticism?

Faryal, Health Educator

14 years ago 0 +0 / -0 816

During my time here I've noticed that when people relapse it's always candy coated as a "slip " here by most members as well as the mods. Even those with significant quit time buy into this , congratulating those not changing their start date. I can no longer hold my nose and won't be a part of this practice. People relapse. Change the date and start over again. This is my opinion and I really don't care what anyone else thinks about it. Have the guts to call a spade a spade. breather
My Milage:

My Quit Date: 11/11/2008
Smoke-Free Days: 294
Cigarettes Not Smoked: 14,700
Amount Saved: $7,056.00
Life Gained:
Days: 53 Hrs: 21 Mins: 36 Seconds: 5

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