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15 years ago 0 3043 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
hi gang,
 
thanks for the help to all... it helps to talk and work things out ...
 
and today I woke up back to normal!
 
I appreciate the time and support you all share with me. Thank you.
15 years ago 0 3043 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Wildcat,  You've already learned what benzo's are....sorry, I think everybody knows my abbreviations.  We talk funny in Kentucky!  lol  I am writing this an encouragement to you....don't beat yourself up.  You don't deserve to continue to kick yourself in the butt!  I understand the fluctuation in how your body responds one time to the alcohol one way and another the next.  It's okay!  
 
I'm glad you have so much insight into when things are going which way  - depression vs. hypomania or manic.  I think that is great!   Sounds like we all need a day planner that is larger than we can carry to document, keep up with and otherwise remind ourselves of everything.  I read in a post somewhere on here....someone suggested that someone prepare one and get it published.  If I had the energy I would definitely do that and get some philanthropic organization to publish it so we could all have one free of charge and the cart necessary to carry it around.
 
Seriously, though, hang in there, it sounds like you've got a great start to some awesome insights!  
 

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hi breanna,
my meds are not that forgiving... i cannot go till week's end, usually a couple of hours till my pipi break in the middle of the night is all i can tolerate.  the effexor's half life is 24 to 28 hours only!!
 
the last time i took a glass of wine i was ... okay. I took the wine, waited 2.5 hours, then the meds, and it was the weekend. Calm. no stress. and ideal conditions.  now, not so!
 
hi rose,
no i did not know i was bipo and i think i would have resisted ... my father was bipo and had many co-morbid problems.  I would have have done anything to not be him!  
so up to and including the crisis of nov 05 i was severely depressed  but usually came out of these periods with minimal meds ... so doctors thought it was depression the thought provoked kind. (hint one)  This crisis was enough and I fiannly asked the local resources to assign me a psycholgist to work through whatever deep enotional pains I had so that these reoccuring depressions would not keep taking me out of work and out of life.   So DSM 4  and a few other tests, interviews, and a year later, my thought patterns, the way I manage stimulii and stress, the relationships i choose, and the way I think are typical of someone who is bipolar; someone who is unable to control or manage their moods properly on their own.
 
1-So for me it means that when things go bad it is the equivalvent of a catastrophie for another.  As you saw in the earlier post , stupid, broken, buried are the deep pain that explode and take over a bad day - not depression.  Depression is so much worse for me.  And then I slowly come back to myself, the brain fires itself up and the week becomes "normal".  
 
2-There are the OTHER times I have to watch out for ... when everything is GREAT !! Work, I can get 12 hours straight done, no break, no water, two bathroom stops, and 2 energy drinks... that is it. and the productivity is enough for three!!  I feel I could win a lottery and spend too much on non-sense.  (i have 3 c-card maxed out).  I am very attentive and very creative and why is evryone so S_L_O_W ?!? during this period ???  Usually it means i have zipped through an idea and only expressed one out of every three words necessary to complete a sentence.  I do not do manic and lose control. I do drive fast (usually 3 or 4 km below the limit - i go +10km or +15km). I do not engage in risky sexual behavior but my husband is usually in for a little treat .
 
bipolar = we move between two poles; depressive and manic.  unipolar = one pole; depressive.
Rapid cycling,  out of control!!!  It means that the shift from one state or mood to the next is quick and definitive. This morning total tears and suicidal, this evening getting ready to party. Not to be confused with a mixed-state.  
 
Bipolar disorder like Major depressive disorder and other disorders on this spectrum - are complex and are not well understood. The medical community is trying to piece together the symptomes and the physical traits but it seems to be a long slow process. So here we are in the middle.  We become the flavour of the month. We try something, hope, watch and listen.  Usually we start the process over a few times.
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wildcat,
you didn't know you where bipolar up until 2005? did they tell you just major depression? what is rapid cycling? the difference between uni/bipolar really confuses me...one psychiatrist told me i was bipolar because i made alot of lists and put me on lamictal - bad allergic reaction. new doc says no way bipolar. how were you finally diagnosed correctly?
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Wildcat,   We all forget sometimes which is why it's so important to keep a medication journal so you always remember. Keep a pill case that you set out at the beginning of the week and make sure it's done (and completely empty) at weeks end. While you are off schedule and adjusting back to your normal level, make sure you are drinking plenty of water, eating well, exercising as much as possible and staying on a regular sleep pattern.
  As for the glass of wine at dinner, most medications require that you don't drink alcohol with them. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist to learn more about the side effects and how alcohol will react with your medication.
 
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hi rose,
hey guess what I am bipo! usually really bipo depressif
 
The seroquel was the psychiatrist's first choice of mood stabliser and sleep aid.  But the slilly thing just put me to sleep I had the equivalent to a bad reaction to it... 10 hours a night with two one hour naps during the day and I was still falling asleep in traffic - with half of the mini-dose!!!!  Now the seroquel is a sleep aid. That is it.  12.5mg every 2 months when I need help getting my sleep pattern back to reasonable.
 
So the second attempt at a mood stabliser was Topiramate.  I am nicely rounded and am really close to having health problems - hence the new nutritionist in my life now!  It works well for moods and has the added benefits of helping with the worst of my stress induced migraines (I have other types as well).  The topiramate also has an effect on appetite, reduction!  And like all psych drugs I do have some things to watch - for me it is alcohol and kidney stones ( i do not drink enough).
 
Effexor was the drug of choice when no one knew I was bipo back in Nov 2005 and I crashed in a depressive misery!!! with a whole bunch of anxiety issues - agoraphobia, OCD, claustrrophobia, social phobias...-   THe effexor recently started to make me cycle rapidly!!! me who has depressive episodes every 2 or 3 years and a bit of hypomania every once in a while!  i thought I was crazy! so along came seroquel, the hospital, the psychiatrist, and a lot of water under the bridge.
 
The thyroid was checked once a year by the GP for the past 10 years but with all the meds changes I have been picked 3 times in the past 18 months for the thyroid just in case!!!  The dose I am at is a lowly 0.075mg but even if I miss that I have temperture changes the next day! so it is a game of balance.
 
I think the sleem problem is that my body just gives out but my head is still speeding right along at 90km/hr.  so it is why I do not really care for the pills and usually read and meditate.
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hello wildcat,
first off, you are not stupid - far from it - and we shouldn't beat ourselves up. wow, it looks like you're taking alot of pills:
seroquel - antipsychotic - isn't that the mood stabilizer for bipolar? it's sedating, but not a sedative
topiramate - for your migraines? anticonvulsant for mania
effexor - SNRI - antidepressant - i read where this could cause migraines and IBS!
synthroid (me too) when was last time you had that tested? your TSH should be 2-3. if it's higher that could be adding to your fatigue. they all could be really - too bad not just at night when fatigue is good!
i hope you're seeing a psychiatrist and not just a GP with this combination of drugs. benzodiazepines - they are anti-anxiety meds and sleep aids - i use temazepam (restoril), if on the rare ocassion i can't sleep - knocks you right out. i''m sorry the peppermint adds to your reflux - how about camomile very mild, not acidy. honestly, keep all your pills in original bottles and get a 2nd opinion - ask the mods- does this combination of drugs seem right to you? you don't deserve to be forgotten, broken  or buried.........! you deserve the best/right medications to help you live a good life! and then you gotta take em
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Hi wildcat! :)
You just have to wait a little till the meds are doing their job. I know how it is like to skip them...
Hang in there!
As for tha agenda I don't know a decent tool. Maybe the people who started this portal will get to it. I would like to work on something like this but for now relly I don't have any spare time. even normal time.... I need the 48 h day!!!

15 years ago 0 3043 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
HI  Ladies.
 
I know the alcohol goes.  But a nice glass of rosee is SSSooooo good with a roast of black angus beef. It is pretty and smell exquisit and it cleans the palet  like nothing else!!! It relaxes and makes a meal 5-!!
 
I have discussed the alcohol problem with the GP befor the topiramate and it was best to cut it out.  But I was Better, I wanted a normal nite.  I guess I will always be stuck with a pretend normal.
 
I know the meds cannot be forgotten.  I know these are not a couple of tylenol for a headach. This is my mood stabliser and migrane prevention and the stuff that keeps the anti depressant from making the anti-depressant make me go screwy(topiramate).  It is my antidepressant (effexor).  It is my thyroid med (synthroid).  I know that when I forget ant of then -when they get stuck to the pill box- I am unwell.  I know that when I fall unconscious with fatigue I have to check at the pipi stop in the middle of the night if all meds are taken. 
 
eh? goofy ... DAYS ?!?    unbelievable.  what is benzo?
 
Rose,
I like many of the natural suppliments ... and here is my but. In order to knock me out I need three or four strong cups of the stuff and my hyper acidic stomach will wake me up to vomit shortly later.  We planted several types of mints near the house as an insect repellent and for cooking (the kids love it). My favorite is a dark varity which has a cacao after-taste!!!  Any ways anxiety driven like I am - most nights a half hour meditation/bilan time is enough to calm me and my thoughts to get to sleep.  But when there is a bit of stress in my life; the good and the bad well  the sleep!!! So the seroquel is my non addictive one shot sleep aid. It does not mess up the rest of the meds like alcohol and a a few other things, and as a mood stabliser it helps the topiramate put me in a better spot the next few days - if I manage to wake up!
 
Ladies,
I know what I am suppoed to do. I know we all have our crosses to bear. I just  am "up-side down" because I made some bad choices these past few days! 
* My mood is not upbeat and I am scared of falling back into that miserable pit of dispair.
 ** I am not challenging the negative thought:  I made a bad choice - I am stupid and sabotaged my health. I am ill again and deserve it.  I deserve to be forgotten, broken, and burried.
 
It is why I was looking for an agenda of sorts; a day planner that was all set-up and ready for me to work with.  The way i am now I can't find any of my stupid sheets to track anything and writing here all the effort I can put into me.
 
15 years ago 0 3043 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
wildcat, more of the same from the other two, I quit drinking when I got the depression meds and yes, skipping one dose messes with me for days!  I take a mood stabilizer but was diagnosed with Major Depression.  It helps me more than anything.  I also take a benzo for the anxiety.  Benzo's and alcohol don't mix.  My psychiatrist told me as a function approached where I knew I would want to take a drink (my son's wedding) to drink half as much, half as fast.  His "recipe" didn't work....he should have said "don't drink".  I told him this and he and I agree now - don't drink!  I understand wanting to have a drink occasionally and well, it simply is not an option for me.  Another step to acceptance.  When I think of that, I am thankful I have something I can live with and I can still eat chocolate (my consolation - in moderation). I also had to give up coffee it made my anxiety over the top!  Please don't skip meds!  Not worth the brain catching up time.  I have my meds in a daily dispenser and keep them by my bed with a glass of water.  Before my feet hit the ground in the a.m. I have them.  I have to have a consistent sleep schedule to maintain so I never sleep in.  We have to make sacrafices in life and this is the hand we are dealt.  You can handle it! 
 
 
 
 


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