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12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 542

Thank you Davit I will look into that. Maybe just maybe I could try it and tolerate it. It would be so good to feel better a little quicker this seems to have gone on so long close to a year and its really taken its toll.

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

Debora.

Antidepressant is a word that should be changed. It covers a lot of medication that is not used for that but some how pharmacology seems comfortable with it.

There is a drug that is listed under antidepressants that is not actually. It is a mood stabilizer and not related to the SSRIs and works on a different brain chemical. It does not take forever to work and does not have to be tapered to stop it. It does not have the anxiety side effects that SSRIs start with. The two main side effects are a very dry mouth and sleep. A person sleeps longer on it. Once awake that is gone. It comes in very small doses, even smaller now than it used too. This is more of a happy pill than the SSRIs will ever be and is meant more to lift your mood than treat depression. It is also used to block pain in conjunction with pain killers.

From personal experience I know it does this. But it does interact with beta-blockers making them stronger and it increases the effects of Benzodiazapines. Not drastically but enough they have to be adjusted. Often the Benzodiazapene can be dropped.

You could talk to your medical care person about it. It is Trimipramine. If you do you might also want to ask about Buspirone. Buspar is an anti-anxiety not related to the Benzodiazapines. Its biggest side effect too is sleep.

Information only, not instruction.

Davit.

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 542

Hi Davit, I do not blame you for not wanting to remember you're attacks, its like childbirth so painful the mind has to forget, but at least with childbirth you get something good I dont know what good you get from panic, I wish I could think of a reason that I have to go through this, maybe to make me a stronger better person I just dont know? My nurse said I was a "wreck" last time I saw her, kind of like when you're therapist called you a "mess" I remember when she said that I got so upset, but she explained what she meant and that kind of helped. I wish I could take the antidepressants Davit, but the ONLY think worse than the panic 5 years ago was the side effects, the constant dizziness, I was vomiting every day, I tore my throat up and tummy and vomited blood! and I was having a urinary tract infection every other week, I could not even keep crackers down! I now wonder whether it really was the antidepressant or it was the fear of them and the panic symptoms, but I am scared to try, I am so sick now Davit I dont want to feel worse, if that is even possible. I take the Klonopin which helps a little, I read antidepressants only work for 75% of the population, the others cant take the side effects or they just dont work, which is sad I know. I just have to believe I can get better or at least it will lessen so I can function.

Yes Davit I hope it continues without the attacks, I guess I am trying to "fear them less" I heard if you are not afraid of them they will go away, lets hope that will help, you give me hope Davit, you have been through so much and survived, I think you are a brave strong man and thank you for helping me and writing me and wanting me to get better, I am so grateful, I guess I am just tired from the depression, do you think when the panic lessens the depression and anxiety will lessen too? I hope so.

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 6252

Debora.

Depression has fatigue as a side effect. If you are not taking medication then you have to live with it. It will go. You can't remember your old life and I can't remember years of panic attacks. No really I can't, I can remember the odd one and I can remember having them, but I only remember bits and pieces. Not that I want to remember them, they were horrible. You will get here too. My therapist reminds me that I was a mess (her words) so I won't forget how far I have come. All I remember is years of fear. I do remember having tunnel vision and almost passing out a few times, and I remember being tired but that was probably medication. I remember my reaction time being real slow.

The biggest thing was that if I had the information I have now I could have done away with anxiety 45 or more years ago. I could have prevented years of panic attacks. I could have been far more than I am. Can't change that so it doesn't matter anymore. Still.....

Two days without an attack is good, for years I had one every night and sometimes in the day too. No breaks, no relief. Hard to believe but it did happen. I could cry thinking about it, but it is over. It will never ever happen again. Never. It has no home here.

Davit.

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 542

I have a question. I was just sitting here at the computer trying to empty my e-mail I am ashamed to say I have over 4,000 messages I have let that go so bad I was just to nervous to ever check it. I was just sitting her deleting all my messages when all of a sudden I started to get that burning queasy naucous feeling all over my tummy lower and upper then pain in my arm! All day I have had a headache and managed to not dwell and ignore it, why would just sitting her doing something so mundane as deleting my messages start causing this anxiety again, I know the burning pain is anxiety its been on and off for months due to the anxiety, I ate well just some broiled fish, rice and salad, why does this anxiety just hit out of the blue like this? is this normal? even through I KNOW its just nerves its bothering me. Is it that its going to take time for my body to "detensify" is my body so use to these feelings they just come automatically, its scaring me now and I was doing so well, why out of the blue like this? Nothing is bothering me I dont think. I dont understand this its so confusing.

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 542

Thanks Sunny Hugs and Davit.

I went to the store tonight! and actually did a little grocery shopping which I had not done in awhile, I dont think my husband wanted me to go since I dont look so hot and he is afraid the neighbors will talk but I faced the fear and did it anyway then walked the dog a little, I am so trying so hard to try to remember my old life before this terrible meltdown, I am proud of myself but I know I have a ways to go. I wish I were not so tired and worn out and exhausted, I feel so achy and tired, could I have hurt my body with all those attacks? or is just going to take time to get my energy back? Sometimes all I want to do is sleep which I know is depression but trying not to give in, I guess all the worry has take a toll, I want so much to get better for my son's birthday at the end of the month and the holidays, I want to live and survive, its alot of work I almost forgot how I once was, does that make sense? Two days without a panic attack is nice and I hope and pray it continues, will I ever get my energy and happiness back again? I hope so, this is one of the hardest things I have ever gone through I just want to believe it has an end a more happy beginning!

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 4027

Debora,

The constructive way you process our observation is indicative of how much better you are! Saying you have to believe it's true(or you "want" to believe it) and you wish to keep going forward with baby steps and not go backward is a indication that there is progress(as opposed to "perfection").

I never get away with using the word "perfect" at home, incidently, since there was a man named "Perfect" in her family, who died a very early death.

Little things like running after the dog, is important too, since you know your priorities. An unwell person would have stayed at the computer.

The Rc's have you in their prayers, Debora...

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1665

HI: I was thinking the same thing, square one is gone. You're advancing Debora! Way to go.

Sunny

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 1665

HI: I was thinking the same thing, square one is gone. You're advancing Debora! Way to go.

Sunny

12 years ago 0 +0 / -0 542

That was such an encouraging thing too say Hugs, thank you, that I am not at "square one anymore" that is such a nice thought, I know I am far from better but a little bit and thats a positive thing, I feel like I am really bewildered at why this happened to me? does that make sense? but you saying that was so positive and nice thank you and I have to believe its true and keep going forward, even if its baby steps I dont want to go backward. My dog just got out Hugs I will write you back I have to go after him~!

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