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Members, you've brought some interesting points. David, its very true, silence is not always golden. Many people find comfort in noise.
 
Loves trees, you've metioned that you had a hard time adjusting to a life with fewer stressors. Thank you for being so honest, and bringing this up. I would agree, that we do live in culture that normalizes high levels of stress. We feel like we need to be doing something all the time, even if it is stressful.
 
What are you doing instead of stressing? What activities have you substituted in its place?
 
 
 
 
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Few people can deal with silence. Even the peacefulness of the country is not silent. The wind becomes obvious, birds sing, it rains. The more silent it becomes the more you hear little things.
It just is not that intrusive constant annoying background clutter. People talk of peacefulness they mention the sound of the snow on there skis. The waves on the shore. For most people silence is not golden. They need the TV on even though there mind is busy blocking it out. Wearing a Walkman while jogging by a busy road.
It boils down to what you need. Some of us need very little so any thing over that amount is stressful. And then there is personal stress. Take two different people in a restaurant. One likes to sit quietly and listen to the noise. The other person can not handle the noise without having some one to talk to so the noise is blocked out.
So what it boils down to is that you have to find your own way of dealing with stress.
One thing I found hard was being out of the loop. Six months in the hospital gave me a whole new set of stressors and when I left, the ones I had been used to were foreign. I used to work in a noisy shop. Now when I visit it bothers me. Times change and so do people. We have to change with it or move away. Imagine bringing some one from pre revolution earth and dropping them in NYC. Instant insanity or instant awe. Depends on the person really.
So you need relaxation techniques and for everyone they will be different but some generally work for everyone. Start with those and then add on your own personal ones. This is where a live group therapy is so good. There would be a number of people stating what works for them in a given situation. Something hard to do here because of the time factor. Not impossible just hard.
A question to think on. What causes a normative stressor to become non-normative for you?

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Ashley,
 
A good topic. I have a few things I have learned about stress. Some people divide up stressors as "normative" vs. "non-normative". For example, starting university is normative, dealing with a sibling getting arrested is not. The word "Normative" is used to label events that we can reasonably expect to occur as part of life (babies, marriage, graduation, normal illness such as flue etc..). This distinction is limited of course. Because a stressor is felt personally, one person may fall apart in transitioning to a new job whereas another person will not, so these categories don't mean much when we're looking at our own personal experiences. For me, the distinction has helped me to understand why some things that were "supposed" to make me feel stressed didn't, and vice versa. I have dealt with normative stressors quite well at times in my life. I"ve had so many non=normative stressors like having a friend pass away that normative stressors like a new job seem "small potatoes" to me. Its a sad fact perhaps that i've enjoyed having something that is normal to be stressed about - its made me feel good about my life to have normal stressors. I don't know if that makes sense.
 
 The only other thing I have to say about stress is that if you go through a period where you have a lot of stress that keeps coming and coming for months or perhaps even years, you get used to this level of stress. That is something to really consider. I have had a hard time adjusting to a life with fewer stressors. Sometimes I create some for myself so that I can go back to my comfort zone of having lots of stress. The ways of the human mind are fascinating. We also live in a culture that normalizes a fairly high level of stress in my opinion. I'm more cognizant of that now and remind myself I do not believe ultimately that life is about surviving one stressful period after another.
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Ashley

This is interesting. Let me throw in an example. I have got this down from major to just annoying. I have chronic infection, In fact two kinds and I just don't have enough Immune response to get rid of them. I cycle up and down and by careful watching I can keep the swings from being too bad. You would think I would be depressed when I have a hard time getting around but it is the opposite. It is a challenge and a focus. When I get better I get quite depressed. I have theories on this. You would think I would jump for joy and do things but I don't. I'm getting better at pushing myself. I believe that anything from our normal routine can set off the blues, we susceptible ones just let it go into depression. Take my medication for staph. It makes major physical and chemical changes so I get mood changes with it.
BUT. I know this so I have some control. I also let the emotions happen to get rid of them. A grown man with tears in his eyes is not a pretty sight but the smile that comes after is.
Oddly enough but maybe not, I get over depression from life's heart aches easier. Maybe because I'm supposed to get depressed over them.

A reminder to everyone. Do not aim for 100% relief, that is not normal, A bit of the blues with reason is okay just like a bit of anxiety and panic lets you know you are still alive. You don't want to be a potato, couch or otherwise.

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Members,
 
Depression is clearly associated with negative stressful life events and problems in living. Stressful life events have been found to be associated with problems with general health and well-being and research has shown that people report an increased number of stressful life event in the weeks leading up to a depressive episode.
 
Any change in a person’s environment, even a positive change, can result in the experience of stress.
 
A major behavioural change or embracing a new lifestyle, the death of a loved one, the loss of a job, or the end of a relationship is often considered to be a significant stressful event. But even positive changes such as marriage, promotion at work, birth of a child, going away to school, or moving to a new home can also cause stress.
 
Over the course of the next few weeks we will examine the stress response and how we can deal with such stresses.
 
Ashley, Health Educator

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