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Reduce your smoke intake, quit, get on the patch, distractions and imangine yourself past it.
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Hey Magpie!!!
 
        Welcome!!!   The first step is over...  you are ready and you're here among all of your new quit buddies!  You need help?  Just holler!!!  I was also a long time smoker who had tried time after time to quit smoking.  I probably would still be smoking if I had not found this site and received the profound gifts of support and experience from everyone here!  Don't fool yourself... this IS going to be one of the hardest things that you will ever do, but it CAN be done!!!  I'm proof!!!
 
        My words of advice have always been 1) Keep a Positive Mental Attitude!  Never say you can't!  Believe in yourself; you CAN do this!!!  2)Follow the program!  The SSC has put together an amazing program that works! And 3) If that craving gets so bad that you are about to drive to that all night liquor store, POST for help!!!  Wait for 5 replies and by then your craving will pass!  These words of advice have been passed down for years and they never let me down!  
 
       My first few months (and months) I practically lived on this site!  I read post after post on how to deal with all the issues I was going through and eventually was able to pass on my own words of wisdom!  That is what this site is all about... Learning how to kick that demon's ash and then holding out your hand to our new fellow quit buddies!
 
        This is going to be a helluva ride for a while!  Try to make the best of it and try to keep smiling!  
 
           Jim 
 
        
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One of the things that helped immensely in the early days especially is H.A.L.T. I went cold turkey and couldn't say how many hours I spent curled up in the fetal position just trying to hang on. It's about taking baby steps until we're able to walk the walk. I look at not smoking as learning how to live a new way of life that's been foreign for most of my adult life. So it's first steps and the confidence obtained by realising that you can succeed. First day won , first Christmas , being able to hang out with the smokers ( upwind from them of course ) but winning self esteem for yourself and no one else. And if we fail we learn from that as well. We learn what not to do next time. I still have a box of the patch unopened around but surely expired long ago. I also like what Eyja has to say and that you haven't gone unnoticed. Keep doing what your doing Eyja. Yay for you. The Alan Carr book was a great help in the early days. We need all the help we can get sometimes. Patience , patience and more patience. Like when you've written the best reply ever and it wouldn't post because it took too long and timed out. The car won't start and you have to go out. Find the snow shovel before it snows just to make sure it didn't grow legs and walk away. Sad to say but we live many times longer than our pets. I think anyone can stop smoking if that's what they really want. It's moreso about the expectations that I have for myself than what other peoples perceptions are of what anyone should be. Relax and give yourself a break. Yay for us. Baby steps. breather
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Sorry for the whine you guys! IT's been a rough day and  I feel so bad physically. Then I remembered that I forgot to take my thyroid medication. For three days. 
 
Think I'll get a reminder tattooed somewhere. Just not on a cigarette case! 
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 I so appreciate what you are saying, Eyja. And Luna really is so lovely! I've re-read what Luna has written quite a few times, and Breather, you really got me on a few things. (Grin!) I like your refreshing frankness! 
 
I will try to get a copy of the Alan Carr book, Eyja. I've read quite a few references to his work on this board. And you are so right - an addiction is just what it is. I actually don't have any problem saying or writing it. I have such a problem with the fact that it's such a damaging addiction, not just for me but for those around me. I've tried to limit the damage - I've been smoking outside for 12 years, but when I lost my little cat last year due to what was more than likely cancer, I wept for days and days, and still haven't finished. I framed photos of her - she's everywhere around here to remind me of what I lost. I'm convinced my smoking impacted her as well as my husband (who thankfully never smoked) and the other critters that had been in my life.
 
Thank you again for dropping in to offer your kindness Luna! I meant to say that I decided to treat myself a bit more kindly on this because of what you had written. It's an odd thing, but when I think back on some terrible times in my life and that I made it through okay, I can't seem to apply that to quitting smoking. That I really can do this, and that it certainly won't be even close to the most difficult thing I've ever done. That disgust and anger is so strong. I have hypothyroidism, and drinking just didn't agree with me so when I was 23 I stopped. Didn't even have to think about it. I decided it made me feel bad and although people don't question it if you drink, when you tell them you don't drink it's like waving a red flag in front of a whole bunch of bulls! I was really surprised at the reaction that it got and still gets. (A friend of mine who doesn't drink for the same reason as me told me that her co-workers thought she was a recovering alcoholic! I can't believe that people can't comprehend that maybe some people just don't like it. Sigh.)
 
But where drinking was not an issue, my oh my is this smoking thing a huge one. This addiction to the actual drug, and the nervous habit of lighting up. I initially wanted to do this cold turkey, but I'm thinking I may need to break that hand to mouth habit first. I did manage three days with the patch so I'm going out tomorrow to get some. Better to have it. I don't want to hear any excuses from me!!!
 
One thing is really unnerving me. The  time I managed to stop for three days was about six years ago. There had been a terrible tragedy in my family in the late winter/early spring of that year, and it was late summer that I did the program and put the patch on. On the third night, I had some very disturbing communication from a family member about the tragedy, and then at 2 in the morning, one of my dogs suffered a terrible stroke. I won't describe what it was like, but I can say that it was unbelievably horrifying. We had to rush him to the emergency vet, and I had to coach the obviously new and very nervous young vet through euthanizing my dog. He was shaking badly. There was an all night liquor store on the way home. I stopped and bought a pack and killed my quit.
 
The reason I bring that up is because my two dogs are very old. One is having serious medical issues and I know that she and her buddy might not be around for long. I've been married for 26 years, no kids, loads of lovely nephews, nieces and a great nephew as well as friends that have their children. But I'm usually here working at home and spend a lot of time around the dogs. I am very close to them. I'm so stupidly afraid of going through a different version of that hideous night all over again, and losing one more good thing (my quit) on top of the loss of a good friend. I know realistically that there are no guarantees about those things beyond our control, but I realize the biggest problem is my anxiety and verge on panic feelings. I've been swamped with them all day. I did well last night with the cutting down - I smoked four less cigarettes than I thought I would, but when I tried to put off having that critical early morning first smoke I actually started shaking. (Here the anger at myself comes in.) It was a failure to me even though I am working towards what I want and on the whole not doing badly. At least I see where I'm at my weakest. Phew. Sorry about that. I feel like I'm all over the road with this!!!
 
Okay, I'm going wrap this up and go lay down and have a really long and hearty cry! Thanks for touching my heart so deeply with your kindness you guys. 
 
 
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Welcome Magpie : ) What lovely, sincere words of encouragement from Luna; a long, long time successful quitter who still graces us 'newbies' with her words of wisdom here at SSC.
In fact, it's nice to read all the posts on this thread! I agree with Vincenza, Breather (you see, he can now; YAY for Breather!) and Luna that it is never Too Little or Too Late to begin your journey toward your new life when you break free from Nicodemon! I am a few days away from my 300 day Quit Anniversary - so going on a year now . . . but since I've had quite a few long time Quits (many years at times)  in my history, I've never trusted my Quits before. No matter my reason (and I always found an excuse) I would always cave to the crave  sooner or later. I felt like a Quit Fraud!
But this time - I know I am not a fraud!  I Quit smoking and I will stay Quit forever!  I know this now because I found the SSC support network - I followed the SSC Quit program diligently; I learned about my emotional attachments tagged to lighting up, I admitted my addiction, (a huge step BTW!) and I learned to adhere to the acronym NOPE - Not One Puff Ever! Ever! Ever!  
So once you've muscled your way through the initial withdrawals using NRTs if you plan to -  or if going Cold Turkey you can try:  ice water, sunflower seeds, visualization, mantras, posting here - or perusing other posts that catch your fancy, tears (well that was one of mine), hot baths, walks, cinnamon toothpicks and read all you can about your addiction. You can try Allen Carr's 'Easy Way to Quit Smoking' and Daniel Amen's 'Magnificent Mind at Any Age' that provides an understanding on how our brains work (including addictions).  You can also join us on the  "What if . . " thread  here - we make a daily pledge to remain smoke free and there's lots of room for your pledge too Magpie : ) 
You are doing great Magpie by cutting back and finding ways to handle those worst craves - setting your quit date and posting here. Good work! Keep it up; you're doing it this time. Best wishes, Eyja
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Hi Magpie,
 
You're welcome—it is a buzz getting those first few posts back, I can remember it well! Your post last night struck a chord with me, especially the disgust for the addiction part. I think most people who find this place have a certain amount of self-loathing for not being able to pull off quitting by themselves. We're beyond that place where we still say," but I really LIKE to smoke! I'll stop when I no longer enjoy it."
 
Friday sounds like the perfectly right day to me. Take your time to prepare a strategy for how you'll deal with the cravings. Remember, one day at a time.
 
As to the positive benefits beyond the obvious?  The greatest will be to your self-esteem and with each day under your belt you will come to realize that you are quite literally taking your life back. You've got to feel it to believe it. It is tremendously powerful.
 
Keep coming back!
Luna
 
 
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12 years ago 0 7 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thank you Breather. I do get everything you are saying. I had a woman (in 1989!) come up to me and scream at me "I hope you die of cancer." And I mean scream. All kinds of weird and rude treatment. I think Canadians pay more in taxes than here, but none of it is cheap. 

I did well last night - smoked one cigarette where I would have smoked five, and the whole day was like that. I stayed late in bed this morning because I was terrified that I would smoke first thing. I walked around and did a couple of small things and then ran for that rotten little cylinder! I just kept asking myself what was so great about it. (Sigh....) I had tons of reasons why it wasn't great and only one why it was. And a nicotine patch would have pretty much solved that one reason.
 
Thanks for writing to me Breather. I really appreciate it. So glad that you and Luna made it! 
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Welcome magpie  Although difficult stopping smoking might be the best thing that you can do for yourself. I had a few feeble attempts at stopping and had pretty well given up on the thought of ever trying to quit. I had to get good and mad at the cigarette company , tax rip off , and everywhere else that I wasn't allowed to smoke anymore and being made to feel like a second class person. I had to learn how to do everything all over again without a smoke stuck in my face. If I can stop then so can you. Three years ago I couldn't stop coughing and couldn't breathe. Within days of stopping I was breathing easier and I hardly ever cough now. This last year of not smoking has been the best ever. I used to be cynical of people that where talking about how wonderful it is to be a non smoker but now I know that they were telling the truth. By stopping we have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Drown any craves with ice water. Just about anything one would want to know is in the old posts here. Excellent for you making the decision to come here. You're the most important person here. We're rooting for you to make it. breather
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Thank you Luna and Vincenza for responding. I really appreciate it!

"Recognize the addiction for what it is and don't get sentimental about it."
 
I think that is so valuable to me Luna. It's a stinky cigarette with a chemical that I like. That's about it. I think the anger I've been feeling about this tends to center around the idea that this thing has such a hold on me. I've been beating the (fill-in-the-blank) out of myself not just today but for years over this. It's a non entity, a bad habit and was a terrible choice for me. (And anyone else doing it!) 
 
I'm trying very hard to think in positive terms....what benefits will come about and how good I'll feel being able to breathe again. I'm cutting down now preparing for Friday (a nice surprise would be if I quit even sooner) and one thing I tend to do is punish thoroughly. I decided that concentrating on rewarding might be a novel approach! So since I kept my smoking down further than I thought I would, I allowed myself a silly pleasure - dancing for the dogs. They are incredibly unrefined and are unimpressed by my masterful  moves, but I know it was good. It felt great anyway! Just until I hit positive purple! I will see if I can get through two songs tomorrow without kakking.
 
Thanks again for the support Luna, and for reaching out to me. I can't tell you how much it means to me. 
 
 

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