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Hi Mom of 3 :-) ... thanks for joining in on this thread.  Your input is appreciated and helps me to better understand why ppl stay when they don't believe CBT will help.  

You mentioned that you cannot make yourself think positively... which I find similar to Pete's statement about not being able to force it either.  In my opinion, you are both absolutely correct about that.  It can be faked, but it isn't real and it won't last. A real change from negative to positive is organic... it comes naturally as you bring your negative thoughts to light and really examine them... challenge them... peel them back and find what is underneath. Mine have a tendency to evaporate after such scrutiny (or at least lose a lot of their power). Then the positive has room to move in and grow.  

This is a simplistic view of a complex process... but basically this is how it happens for me. You are definitely not alone in feeling the way you do.  There aren't many in the "real" world with whom I can talk about this stuff.   I sure hope other members will join in the discussion.  I am grateful that we have the health educators to help us figure this stuff out!

One final note... I don't mean any disrespect but I cannot bring myself to address you as "Could be More".  I believe we are all being everything we can be right now at this moment.  I found a new quote yesterday that kind of says it all... "Let everything you do today ... be enough" ... perhaps tweek it a bit to read "Let everything you are today ... be enough."

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It's been awhile since I've been on the site (and under another name - Mom of 3).  I just read this thread and can say that I understand what Pete is saying.  I feel much like he does - I have trouble "buying into" the paradigm.  When I challenge my negative thoughts I become more depressed.  I honestly believe most of them - perhaps not to the extreme that I might state them, but there is an underlying level of belief that is unshakable.  I take medication and find that to help "keep me even".  I also attend counseling which helps me to look at myself and have a sounding board.  BUT I am unable to make myself think positively because it usually does not work for me - I can't buy into it because I constantly see the opposite.

I can't speak for Pete but I think he is probably here for the same reason I am - it is nice to know you're not alone, and sometimes the only way a positive sinks in for some of us is through the eyes of someone who can see it.
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Gosh Pete... (sorry about confusing you with Paul ) that's a pretty depressing outlook.  But then, that's why we come here.  Trying to find some help out of the abyss.  I've been here a year and am doing so much better.... I am sorry you feel like you are no better off and never will get any better using CBT. May I ask why you continue to stay here if it is not helping?
12 years ago 0 223 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Thank you, ~m.
 
I see where you're coming from on this and it is somewhat encouraging to read your conviction that one can change the way one thinks with the right tools.
 
With the right tools...now, there's the rub, at least as far as I am concerned. I have yet to find the tools. After 3 or more years of CBT, I know for sure that it is not for me, and has barely helped me. I know (and you may be thinking) it's not a magic wand, and it's down to me to do the work, but I just can't buy into the whole paradigm, the frame within which CBT is set. I can make myself look at my thought processes as CBT asks me to, but I gain nothing from it except a deepened depression and a certainty that I am stupid because I just don't get it.
 
Obviously it is a therapy which has helped many people, and I'm certainly not qualified to dispute its validity, but for me....no.
 
So, I search for the golden fleece. The tool, the trick, that will help me change my mind........though, come to think of it, it's not my mind that needs changing, it's my life. Depression and negativity are perfectly rational responses to my life, and who and what I am.
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I totally agree with Red on this and Paul too in the sense that you can't "force" positive thinking.  It comes out phony and short lived if "forced".  This site is a testament to the FACT that it can be taught... it is not a quick nor easy process, but it can be done.  I don't believe positive thinking is a gift that some people are given and some are not... I believe the gift is being given the tools (CBT is one) to change the way we think.  Like Red, since being here, doing the homework and participating in the forums I am experiencing huge differences in the way I view the world and manage my life.  I never thought this possible.  But, it surely is!
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I believe in the power of positive thinking..I have found that with the help of the various cbt programs here on the site and with the help of someone very close to me that I have learned to think more positively...One thing I have noticed is that when I am involved with people that have the ability to be optimist and think positively I also become more positive and optimistic. I was a very pessimistic person when I first started here and never thought I could become optimistic but I have changed over time...I think for the better..I do have to say it is challenging at times though and I have my good days and bad days like everyone does but over all I think I am a much more positive person than I used to be...
 
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12 years ago 0 223 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
I have no doubt at all about the power of positive thinking. Given that there is no objective reality, one's individual view of the world is the world. Literally.
 
However....it's very hard, if not impossible, to force it.  Some of us have this gift and some don't.
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Positive thinking can be a very powerful tool to use in everyday life. Those who use positive thinking are more likely to anticipate happiness, joy and a successful outcome to every situation.  Some say that whatever the mind expects, it finds.

Members, what are your thoughts on the powers of positive thinking?

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